I infer that you would have preferred a single US chapter from the
start, wouldn't you?
Il 28/06/2015 06:08, Risker ha scritto:
Ironically, Ricordisamoa, the "decision" to not have a US chapter was made
around 10 years ago at the strong urging of other chapters. The theory (as
I understand it) was that the US was the home of the WMF itself, which in
the view of the era, meant that the US didn't need the "protections" that
came from a chapter; the WMF itself was perceived to speak for US
Wikimedians. (Given the times, back when there were literally only enough
employees to run the servers and sort of keep an eye on MediaWiki, this was
perhaps an incorrect assessment.) Then US regions started to form chapters,
first New York then DC; there are now a significant number of user groups.
If there had been a US chapter formed back at that time, there would only
be one US chapter; the rest would never be recognized at the chapter level.
Instead, we now see the specter of what could come, since the US alone as a
nation with a large number of Wikimedians does not have the opportunity for
a single chapter: given a little bit more organization, and the ambition
to do the paperwork to become a chapter, the US could have as many (or
more) chapters than exist in all of Europe in a few years. One has to
wonder if some other countries, especially those with a large number of
Wikimedians or a massive geographic area, might wish they had gone with
regional affiliates rather than a national one.
Risker/Anne
On 27 June 2015 at 23:26, Ricordisamoa <ricordisa...@openmailbox.org> wrote:
I know the confederated approach may surely make more sense for the local
communities, but I think an established regional subject would help uproot
the Foundation from a single country it relies too much on.
Il 28/06/2015 05:00, Pine W ha scritto:
Hi Ricordisamoa,
There are multiple chapters, user groups and thematic organizations that
are active in the US and have a degree of separation from WMF. The US
affiliates are cooperative with each other, and the affiliate leaders
communicate with each other fairly frequently. May I ask what benefits you
think would come from having a consolidated US chapter? We've talked about
this casually among ourselves but so far we seem to be satisfied with a
confederation of smaller affiliates instead of a single national affiliate.
Thanks!
Pine
On Jun 27, 2015 7:20 PM, "Ricordisamoa" <ricordisa...@openmailbox.org
<mailto:ricordisa...@openmailbox.org>> wrote:
The WMF will become a truly global organization when a Wikimedia
US chapter is founded ;-)
Il 08/04/2015 06:58, Pine W ha scritto:
Hi Garfield,
I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians
have noted
the expensiveness of the San Francisco area including its high
cost of
living for staff, employer competition for engineering talent, and
associated high salaries for WMF employees.
I see on
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/8/8a/RFP_for_Real_Estate_Services.pdf
that WMF is considering relocating its offices when its
current main office
lease expires.
Questions:
What happens to the remodel expenses that WMF is paying for at
its current
location? If WMF vacates the premesis, will it be compensated
for the
remodel by the building owner?
I hope that WMF is contemplating fully exiting the San
Francisco market
area in order to economize, get better value for our donors'
funds, have
less competition for talent, and lower costs of living for
staff. Is this
being considered?
Thanks very much,
Pine
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