Will the Visual Editor be enabled on Talk Pages then for use of the Visual Editor user? Flow had been heralded as the solution for those not able to contribute in wikitext but if that option is off the table, what is the solution for the VE-only user?
Kerry -----Original Message----- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of MZMcBride Sent: Wednesday, 2 September 2015 10:15 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization Danny Horn wrote: >To better address the needs of our core contributors, we're now >focusing our strategy on the curation, collaboration, and admin >processes that take place on a variety of pages. Many of these >processes use complex workarounds -- templates, categories, >transclusions, and lots of instructions -- that turn blank wikitext >talk pages into structured workflows. There are gadgets and user >scripts on the larger wikis to help with some of these workflows, but >these tools aren't standardized or universally available. I absolutely agree that existing wiki workflows need love. I think anyone who has looked at various wiki request for deletion processes, for example, easily sees and understands the need for a better system. What I'm struggling with here is that Flow seems to have failed to deliver. It hasn't met its goals of covering even basic talk pages and it sounds as though further development work on Flow will now be suspended. From my perspective, after over two years of development, we've basically accomplished creating pages such as "Topic:P0q3m7vwysdezd2m" (I wish I were kidding, that's an actual page title) on development wikis such as mediawiki.org. This is a pretty bleak outcome, in my opinion. Given the failure in addressing basic talk pages, why would anyone trust the Collaboration team to work on and improve more complex workflows? I don't see a track record of success or, alternately, a good explanation for why the previous work has failed and what will be better next time. MZMcBride _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
