Thanks! I see it's from November. Somebody could point earlier to this and spare us u couple of emails of this month quota :P On Jan 2, 2016 09:20, "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > I just got the link of the official statement of WMF regarding > internet.org. > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero/Development#Regarding_Internet.org > > Regards, > Bodhisattwa > On 2 Jan 2016 05:01, "Kim Bruning" <k...@bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote: > > > Hi Milos, > > Happy new year to you! > > > > I thought your mail to the list was very thoughtful. > > I've replied inline below. > > > > On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 06:50:16AM +0100, Milos Rancic wrote: > > > I don't think the pure form of net-neutrality is sustainable. Many > > > businesses already have deals with other businesses to provide > > > something for free or "for free" or for reduced price via their > > > infrastructure. > > > > Hmm, this example has little to do with net neutrality as I understand > > it though. > > > > Net neutrality means that you pay your ISP to allow you to send and > > receive packets to/from anyone without discrimination to source or > > destination. (In other words you're paying for actual internet access > > without let or hindrance). > > > > Previously this is how the market worked. > > > > Without going into details here, many sources tell us that the > > market is now threatening to shift towards a winner-takes-all walled > > garden model. (if not already there) > > > > It's going to be a challenge to keep open source and open content > > operating and relevant in such an increasingly hostile environment this > > coming decade. > > > > > Neither I think the initiative will really create a permanent > > > underclass. People in underdeveloped regions will eventually become > > > richer and they won't need this kind of service. > > > > We can ask them whether they want to continue having such a service at > > any time. Or we can set some participation threshold above which we > > would accept a petition to stop. (It is always wise to have > > pre-prepared go/no-go safety checks at particular points in time) > > > > > * Finally, we belong to the movement which promotes net neutrality as > > > one of the core values. No matter how realistic it is, we should > > > support it. Wikipedia Zero is not net-neutral, but Wikimedia projects > > > are of such significance that it could be tolerated. Going further > > > into abandoning that principle would create definite divide between us > > > and the rest of our global super-movement. > > > > *Nod* We have to beware of fouling our own nest. Even though Wikipedia > > zero appears to help our own cause now, we need to be careful we don't > > hurt the people we depend on in turn. > > > > People such as the open source community and internet standards > > organisations might prove quite sensitive to changing Internet rules. > > We should put our ears to the ground and listen carefully to what > > representatives of these groups may be saying to us. > > > > sincerely, > > Kim Bruning > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
