Would love to hear what the Wikipedia Library Project team has to say on the issue.
Pinging Jake Orlowitz & Alex Stinson. Shani. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > As the panel moderator, I felt there was a rather strong consensus (from > the various communication channels -- wiki pages, blog & Facebook posts and > discussions, and the panel) that went a bit beyond what Robert said (which > is certainly an important piece. > > A number of people also felt that, while the Elsevier deal may have been a > good one, there may also have been better ways to communicate it -- and > specifically, ways to place restrictions on the kind of language (entities > like) Elsevier could use around the Wikimedia trademarks. I believe this > was all absorbed by Wikipedia Library staff, and I have no doubt that > future announcements will be better suited to Wikimedia values. > > I agree with Lodewijk that strong consensus would be needed to overturn an > existing contract. Please note also that at least six Wikimedia volunteers > would be impacted if Wikimedia were to renege on its contract: those who > have gained access to Elsevier Science Direct through the program, and are > presumably doing good Wikipedia work as a result. Have you checked in with > them, or looked at their work, Milos? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Elsevier_ScienceDirect > > -Pete > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Robert Fernandez <wikigamal...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > "No, WMF shouldn't morally support Elsevier by having any relation with > > them." > > > > This was debated extensively last September. The opinion of many, > > including myself, was that the WMF's primary commitment should be to the > > encyclopedia and providing editors and readers the resources to improve > the > > encyclopedia, not making a moral stand against Elsevier by withdrawing > > those resources. > > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Gerard Meijssen > > > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Anyone can use Sci-Hub. Officially you cannot, legally you should > not. > > > The > > > > WMF makes it possible for those who want to use Elsevier. > > > > > > > > No problem; anyone can use Sci-Hub. Move on. > > > > > > Dear Gerard, > > > > > > You are again ignoring the point intentionally. > > > > > > No, WMF shouldn't morally support Elsevier by having any relation with > > > them. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Milos > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
