I would not consider the dumps to be backups. They are for purposes of mirroring, research, analysis, offline reading and bot processing among other things, but as a backup of our data they fall short. Not only are they not up to the minute but they do not contain private data, as they are intended for public use.
I should note here, though IANAL, that any restrictions that may be placed on US government communications do not of course apply to the private sector. Having said that, I would like also to see offline backups happen, for various reasons. Ariel On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes they are: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/mirrors.html and three out of > four of them are outside U.S. > > Best > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:26 PM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > No they are not backed up outside the USA. I am not so sure there are off > > line backups/ > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > On 27 January 2017 at 10:10, Peter Southwood < > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net > > > > > wrote: > > > > > I hope the servers are backed up outside the USA in at least two places > > > and that the data is also backed up off-line somewhere to make it > > > unhackable. > > > Cheers, > > > Peyer > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > > > Behalf Of Romaine Wiki > > > Sent: Friday, 27 January 2017 5:34 AM > > > To: Wikimedia > > > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general > > > > > > Today I was reading in the (international) news about websites with > > > knowledge on the topic of climate change disappear from the internet as > > > result of the Trump administration. The second thing I read is that > > before > > > something can be published about this topic, the government needs to > > > approve this. > > > > > > Do you realise what the right word for this is? censorship. > > > Even if it is only partially. > > > > > > Luckily there are many scientists working on getting all the data > abroad, > > > out of the US to ensure the research data is saved, including on > servers > > in > > > the Netherlands where Trump (hopefully) has no reach. > > > > > > In the past week I was reading about the Internet Archive organisation, > > > who is making a back up in Canada because of the Trump administration. > I > > > did not understood this, you may call me naive, but now I do > understand, > > > apparently they have some visionary people at the Internet Archive. > > > > > > I miss a good answer to this situation from the Wikimedia Foundation. > > > > > > Trump is now promoting harassment and disrespect, already for some > time, > > > > > > What signal is given to the rest of the world if an America based > > > organisation is spreading the thought of a harassment free Wikipedia > and > > > the free word, while the president of the US is promoting harassment, > > > disrespect and censorship on a massive scale. > > > > > > This is just the first week of this president! > > > > > > I am 100% sure everyone in the Wikimedia movement is willing to make > sure > > > Wikimedia faces no damage whatsoever, including in WMF, but to me this > > > still starts to get concerning. > > > > > > If we as Wikimedia movement think that free knowledge, free speech, > > > freedom of information, etc are important, I would think that the > > location > > > where the organisation is based is that country where liberty is the > > > largest, I do not know where this is but it is definitely not the US. > > > > > > To my impression WMF is stuck in the US, so I do not believe they would > > > actually move when the danger grows. > > > > > > But I think it is possible to make sure risks are spread over the > world. > > > Certainly as we are an international movement that intends to cover the > > > knowledge of the whole humanoid civilisation. > > > > > > To come to a conclusion, I think WMF and the Wikimedia movement should > > > think about a back-up plan if it actually goes wrong. > > > > > > > > > If you do not agree with me: that is perfectly fine, that's your right > > and > > > should be protected. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Romaine > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > ----- > > > No virus found in this message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13841 - Release Date: > > 01/26/17 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>