Lodewijk, I posted on the 4th, > Licensing and the choices have been discussed on Commons https://commons. > wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/AppropriatelyLicensed is > well worth a read to understand the issue
the problem of no attribution is a real issue sometimes I just ask for the company to fix that and other times I just ignore. On one occasion I went to a lawyer because the company had put their copyright mark on my photo and was offering it for sale. The cases highlighted are trivial and should normally be dismissed by courts but using predatory behavior of lawyers does get rewards. I agree that the predatory behavior needs to be addressed but in doing so we shouldnt be excluding the opportunity for recourse when malicious behaviors of the end user occur. A part of the free sharing of knowledge is ensuring the under lying laws and conditions that enable it are also respected by all parties. On 6 March 2017 at 08:03, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > Hi Steinsplitter. Thanks for mentioning this was discussed multiple times > on Wikimedia Commons. The discussion on the German Wikipedia was actually > the trigger of this discussion, so we were aware of that existing. I didn't > see a reference to the discussions on Commons yet. Do you have links by any > chance? > > Thanks, > Lodewijk > > 2017-03-05 13:33 GMT+01:00 Steinsplitter Wiki <steinsplitter-w...@live.com > >: > > > This has been discussed multiple times on Wikimedia Commons and dewp, > thus > > i see no need to discuss it here again. > > > > The RFC on dewp [1] to ban such photos from being used failed, which > > speaks for itself. > > > > --Steinsplitter > > > > [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/ > > keine_Bilder_in_Artikelnamensraum_von_direkt_abmahnenden_Fotografen > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Von: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> im Auftrag > von > > rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com> > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. März 2017 10:22 > > An: Wikimedia Mailing List > > Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist > > business > > > > case 1: > > <removed> > > to name a couple of other persons if you want to google for > > "abmahnfalle wikipedia" (cease and desist trap wikipedia): > > <removed> > > > > personally i favor a technical solution, as i find it pointless to put > > people on some pillory for doing what the law allows them to do. like > > separating into two commons - one save for reuse, one to be used if > > you know a lawyer. or to built into wikipedias infrastructure to > > include the license and author within the picture, fix wordpress, > > etcetc. besides of course fixing the CC license in case it still is > > not ready for proper online usage. > > > > rupert > > > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> > > wrote: > > > I've run into one or two people on OTRS that were reusing the materials > > in > > > good faith, but that got a letter from such a photographer that wanted > to > > > see money (and that is just spillover from Germany to the Netherlands). > > > Examples linked in the discussion include this warning and bill > > > <http://www.gulli.com/news/19712-abmahnung-wegen-bild- > > aus-der-wikipedia-2013-01-12> > > > of > > > hundreds of euros for a foundation that did not specify the author name > > or this > > > website that was asked <https://historischdenken.hypotheses.org/3677> > to > > > pay over a thousand euro. The discussion on the German WIkipedia may > > > contain more links, and the linked blogs are insightful on how this > > > behaviour is being perceived. Just google for "abmahnung bild > wikipedia" > > to > > > find more examples and stories. > > > > > > Hope that clarifies. German Wikipedians may have better examples. > > > > > > Lodewijk > > > > > > 2017-03-04 12:47 GMT+01:00 David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com>: > > > > > >> This thread is notably long on hypothetical and meta-level discussions > > >> and very short on concrete examples of the supposedly problematic > > >> uploads under discussion. 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