One clarification to Liam's very precise explanations: Donors do not automatically become "Fördermitglieder"/sponsoring members by donating, i. e. not every donor becomes a member. You have to actively choose membership. If anybody is interested to learn more at Wikimania, I just submitted an informal Birds of a Feather session to which you can sign up here * https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/50,000_Members_%26_WMDE Best Michael
--- Michael Jahn Leiter Kommunikation & Partnerschaften Head of Communications & Partnerships Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de <http://www.wikimedia.de> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch freien Zugang zu der Gesamtheit des Wissens der Menschheit hat. Helfen Sie uns dabei! Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. 2017-06-06 16:37 GMT+02:00 Liam Wyatt <liamwy...@gmail.com>: > This annual report, and the numbers in it, are indeed very cool :-) > Congratulations. > > I just want to add a clarification about the membership numbers, since that > is getting a lot of attention in this thread. Not because these numbers are > incorrect, or bad, but that other Chapters might be feeling upset that they > aren't also achieving such high numbers. > > WM-De has, according to this report, 50,000 members in total > https://2016.wikimedia.de/en/report/members However, what the other > chapters need to understand - so they don't feel bad by comparison! - is > that the Germany system has two methods of membership. These are [as it > been described to me by a German-speaker, I apologise if I'm missing a > nuance of language]: > - "Aktives Mitglied", the members with voting rights > - "Fördermitglied", the people who become a member when they donate, but > have no voting rights. > The English version of the report uses the terms "active" and "sponsoring". > Other chapters only have this first group. > > The German-language Wikipedia article about WMDE itself describes the ratio > between these in April 2015 as 1.921 active : 18.402 sponsoring. > https://de. > wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland#Mitgliederversammlung > > Another factor is that, unlike WM-De, other Chapters do not have direct > ownership of the fundraising banners and therefore they cannot promote > membership to donors in their country as easily. Finally, Germany also has > a strong cultural tradition of membership-associations which is not > necessarily the case in other countries. > > All this is not to criticise WM-De, but to say to other chapters that they > should not feel bad by comparison, because these situations are not > directly comparable. > > Sincerely, > - Liam / Wittylama > > wittylama.com > Peace, love & metadata > > On 6 June 2017 at 16:16, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > No, it means 15,000 new (paying) members of the association Wikimedia > > > Deutschland. > > > > > > > Just to be clear - these are basically donors, not volunteers, right? > > > > > > > > > > However, we also try to recruit new authors/editors via banner > campaigns > > > and are running several of them throughout the year. If you are > > interested > > > in this, consider joining Verena's session at Wikimania about "On-Wiki > > > Campaigning to Engage New Editors"[1] > > > > > > I look forward to hearing about this but won't be at Wikimania -will > there > > be anything published about it ? :) > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
