Then, if it's not a too big maintance burden, what about proposing both
solution?
Our users already pay extremely huge loading time for some feature like
visual editing, but the far faster wikitext editor is still there for
those who are happier with that.
Le 24/11/2017 à 19:37, Tilman Bayer a écrit :
I think this is unlikely to happen, because of the performance degradation
(access via Tor will always be slower, which user studies
<http://www.mdpi.com/1999-5903/4/2/488/htm> have shown to be a significant
usability issue in the past). But as an option or fallback or separate app
it might be a great idea; there is a Phabricator task at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163747
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
wrote:
Excellent! Still, as I argued before, I believe that a solution we could
use is defaulting to Tor channeling in our mobile app. Facebook offers it
as an option in partnership with Orbot - I believe we should do the same,
but default to it (so that people cannot be held responsible for making a
choice). For unlogged Wikipedia reading this solution is practically
transparent for users.
I've recently contacted the WMF with Orbot people and hope that at least we
can evaluate this approach as a possibility.
best,
Dariusz Jemielniak "pundit"
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Cristian Consonni <crist...@balist.es>
wrote:
Hi all,
Some months ago, the idea of setting up an onion service for Wikimedia
projects was discussed on this list[1] and as a proposal in IdeaLab on
Meta[2].
Today, Alec Muffett announced on Twitter[3] that he created «as an
experiment» a series of read-only mirrors of all the Wikimedia projects.
He will be running them for some time.
The service is reachable with a Tor-enabled browser at the following
address:
https://www.qgssno7jk2xcr2sj.onion/
If you want to try out the service, first visit the addresses listed in
this page and add exceptions for the SSL certificates:
https://gist.github.com/alecmuffett/3da587fde6aef90ba3e49e8858fafdae
(this is one of the limits of having a non-official service)
Alec Muffett is the author of the Enterprise Onion Toolkit (EOTK)[4], a
FLOSS project which "does for Onions what LetsEncrypt does for SSL",
that is providing a simple way to transform websites in Onion services
(which are accessible only and contained within the Tor network). Alec
used EOTK for creating this demo. He was also behind the onion service
for Facebook[5].
IMO this service, even with its current limitations, is quite awesome
and I am very happy to see it. It is exactly the kind of proof of
concept that I wanted to create with my proposal. So now there's that.
Enjoy!
Cristian
[1]: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-
June/087708.html
[2]:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/A_Tor_
Onion_Service_for_Wikipedia
[3]:https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/933739816038076419
[4]: https://github.com/alecmuffett/eotk
[5]:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/
10/facebook-offers-hidden-service-to-tor-users/
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*Ostatnie artykuły:*
- Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017) Cultural Diversity of
Quality of Information on Wikipedias
<http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/cultures%20of%20wikipedias.pdf>
*Journal
of the Association for Information Science and Technology* 68: 10.
2460–2470.
- Dariusz Jemielniak (2016) Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits
of A-Hierarchical Organization
<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/wikimedia_governance.pdf>
*Journal
of Organizational Change Management *29: 3. 361-378.
- Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016) Bridging the Gap Between
Wikipedia and Academia
<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/bridging.pdf> *Journal of the
Association for Information Science and Technology* 67: 7. 1773-1776.
- Dariusz Jemielniak (2016) Breaking the Glass Ceiling on Wikipedia
<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> *Feminist
Review *113: 1. 103-108.
- Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)
Inequalities
in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits
in
Apache Software Foundation Projects
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?id=10.1371%
2Fjournal.pone.0152976.PDF>
, *PLoS ONE* 11: 4. e0152976.
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