Hi Frans, On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:59 AM, Frans Grijzenhout <fr...@wikimedia.nl> wrote:
> Hi Leila, thank you for sharing the results of this important survey. Must > have been a tremendous job and we are very happy to have this information > about our readers now available. We will certainly discuss this with the > Dutch WP community. During this discussion we will of course also focus on > the difference between WP-NL and some other languages (another valuable > aspect of this research). > Sure. If you need our help somewhere, please let me know. We're trying to document everything, including how the results can be read by each community, but I feel I'm always behind on documentation. :/ If you all run into questions, just post them in the meta page. I'd also be happy to make myself available for a call if that helps. We will keep you posted (through your point of contact) if we learn more about Dutch Wikipedia readers as we go deeper in analysis. Best, Leila > Thanks again, Frans > > *Frans Grijzenhout*, voorzitter / chair > +31 6 5333 9499 > -- > *Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland* > Mariaplaats 3 - 3511 LH Utrecht > Kamer van Koophandel 17189036 > http://www.wikimedia.nl/ > > 2018-03-15 17:45 GMT+01:00 Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org>: > > > Hi all, > > > > We are ready to share the result of the first part of the study for > > the 14 languages that participated in the survey with you. To recap: > > the goal of the first part of the study was to compute the prevalence > > of the use-cases of Wikipedia across the 14 languages, basically, > > generating plots similar to Figure 2 in our earlier research [0] for > > these languages. What took most of our time was the debiasing step we > > had to take for every language and triple-checking the results to make > > sure we didn't make a mistake. You can read more about this first part > > at the blog post we just published [1] and on meta [2]. > > > > What's left? A lot! :) We took one big step to make sense of the data, > > but there is a lot left. We have now entered the second phase of the > > study during which we will try to do a deeper analysis to characterize > > readers by survey response type across as many languages as we can. > > The higher the number of survey responses from a language, the higher > > the chances for us to be able to get good results in this phase. We > > expect to be able to do this deeper analysis in around 5 languages, > > maybe more. We will let you know once we know more about this part. > > > > This is a good opportunity for me to thank many of you who have made > > this research possible. Many colleagues at Wikimedia Foundation > > stepped up and helped us in every step of the way, thanks to all of > > you. I specifically want to call out the work that the points of > > contacts and volunteers put to help us run the survey in your > > languages [3] and to our formal collaborators Bob West (EPFL, > > User:Cervisiarius) and Florian Lemmerich (RWTH Aachen University, > > User:Flemmerich) who have been working in this area of research, truly > > tirelessly. Florian had a lot of sleepless nights to prepare these > > results. > > > > If you have questions or comments, you know where to find us: IRC > > channel #wikimedia-research on freenode (look for leila or lzia), the > > discussion page where we document things, etc. Your role is key now. > > Please look at the results in your languages, ponder on them, and tell > > us if you see interesting patterns that we have missed and we should > > consider digging deeper in and making sense of. And, please enjoy > > using this data for your language. We stand behind these results [4]. > > > > Best, > > Leila > > > > [0] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1702.05379.pdf > > [1] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/03/15/why-the-world-reads-wikipedia/ > > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Characterizing_ > > Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Robustness_across_languages > > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Characterizing_ > > Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Robustness_across_languages# > > Participating_languages > > [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Characterizing_ > > Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Robustness_across_languages#Results > > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni > > <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > > > OK, I did it :) > > > > > > I don't write in the Russian Wikipedia as much as I do in Hebrew and > > > English, but it should be OK. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > > > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > > > “We're living in pieces, > > > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore > > > > > > 2017-06-21 9:57 GMT+03:00 Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org>: > > > > > >> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > > >> <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > If I want this done for Hebrew and Russian, do I just reply to this > > >> thread? > > >> > > >> > > >> [Amir, you are aware of this but I'm hoping by saying it here we can > > >> change the outcome.] > > >> > > >> At the moment, all text is translated to Russian but we don't have any > > >> volunteer as a point of contact for Russian Wikipedia. The PoC is > > >> needed to communicate the notifications from us to the ruwiki > > >> community and also transfer anything we should know from that > > >> community back to us. I have made having a PoC a (soft?) requirement > > >> for running the survey in a language. If you are from ruwiki and you'd > > >> like to be the PoC, please ping me immediately (I expect up to 3 hours > > >> of your time to be spent in the next 2 months). > > >> > > >> If we don't find a PoC in the next 12 hours or so, we will need to > > >> make a call whether to run in ruwiki or not. I'd love for us to run > > >> the survey in ruwiki, especially as volunteers have already spent time > > >> and care on the translations and there is little we (the broader > > >> Wikimedia community) know about ruwiki. :) > > >> > > >> Here is the list of languages and their PoCs, if you're curious: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Characterizing_ > > >> Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Robustness_across_languages# > > >> Participating_languages > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> Leila > > >> > > >> > > > >> > בתאריך 21 באפר׳ 2017 19:46, "Leila Zia" <le...@wikimedia.org> כתב: > > >> > > > >> > > Hi all, > > >> > > > > >> > > ==Background== > > >> > > In November 2016, I presented the result of a joint research that > > >> > > helped us understand English Wikipedia readers better. > (Presentation > > >> > > at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIaMuWA84bY ). I talked about > > how > > >> > > we used English, Persian, and Spanish Wikipedia readers' inputs to > > >> > > build a taxonomy of Wikipedia use-cases along several dimensions, > > >> > > capturing users’ motivations to visit Wikipedia, the depth of > > >> > > knowledge they are seeking, and their knowledge of the topic of > > >> > > interest prior to visiting Wikipedia. I also talked about the > > results > > >> > > of the study we did to quantify the prevalence of these use-cases > > via > > >> > > a large-scale user survey conducted on English Wikipedia. In that > > >> > > study, we also matched survey responses to the respondents’ > digital > > >> > > traces in Wikipedia’s server logs which enabled us in discovering > > >> > > behavioral patterns associated with specific use-cases. You can > read > > >> > > the full study at https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.05379 . > > >> > > > > >> > > ==What do we want to do now?== > > >> > > There are quite a few directions this research can continue on, > and > > >> > > the most immediate one is to understand whether the results that > we > > >> > > observe (in English Wikipeida) is robust across > languages/cultures. > > >> > > For this, we are going to repeat the study, but this time in more > > >> > > languages. Here are the languages on our list: Arabic, Dutch, > > English, > > >> > > Hindi, Japanese, Spanish (thanks to all the volunteers who have > been > > >> > > helping us translating all survey related documents to these > > >> > > languages.:) > > >> > > > > >> > > ==What about your language?== > > >> > > If your language is not one of the six languages above and you'd > > like > > >> > > to learn about the readers of Wikipedia in it (in the specific > ways > > >> > > described above), please get back to me by Monday, April 24, AoE. > I > > >> > > cannot guarantee that we can run the study in your language, > > however, > > >> > > I guarantee that we will give it a good try if you're interested. > > The > > >> > > decision to include more languages will depend on: our capacity to > > do > > >> > > the analysis, the speed at which your community can help us > > translate > > >> > > the material to the language, the traffic to that language, a > couple > > >> > > of sentences on how you'd think the result can help your > community, > > >> > > and your willingness to help us document the results for your > > language > > >> > > at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Characterizing_ > > >> > > Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour > > >> > > (Quite some work will need to go to have readable/usable > > >> > > documentations available and we are too small to be able to > > guarantee > > >> > > that on our own for many languages.) > > >> > > > > >> > > Best, > > >> > > Leila > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > Leila Zia > > >> > > Senior Research Scientist > > >> > > Wikimedia Foundation > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > >> > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > >> > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > >> > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject= > > unsubscribe> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > >> wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > , > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > >> wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>