I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly. What kind of visitor tracking are we using in this site? And if someone is not willing to be tracked, this site should load fully without breaking the styling. --- Shabab Mustafa T. @tarunno S. shabab.mustafa W. https://shabab.me
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:13 PM Peter Coombe <pcoo...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi Lodewijk, > > I'm not sure exactly what, if any, other sites this new privacy policy > might cover. However I can confirm that the WMF fundraising infrastructure > remains under the existing Donor Privacy Policy: > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Donor_privacy_policy/en > > Thanks, > Peter > > -- > Peter Coombe > Fundraising Production Manager > Wikimedia Foundation > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 20:00, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > > > I can imagine that this alternate privacy policy is actually covering a > > wider range of sites that are non-wiki, such as the fundraising > > infrastructure and the survey websites, voting websites etc. Rather than > > having a different privacy policy for each of those instances, I think it > > is actually clearer to have two policies: one for the content delivery > (the > > 'wikis') that have practically zero cookie tracking to the best of my > > knowledge and one for the other websites that may require other methods > to > > be functional. > > > > As a sidenote, I think it actually could be a totally fair statement to > say > > that wikimediafoundation.org is, relative to the content projects, not a > > 'major site' of the WMF. It is supporting infrastructure at best. (no > > offense :) ) > > > > Lodewijk > > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 7:23 AM Chico Venancio <chicocvenan...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Indeed an special watered down privacy policy is strange. It is worth > > > noting that the standard privacy policy[1] does not state that it only > > > applies to "wiki based websites" but instead lists what it does and > does > > > not cover[2], the only interpretation that allows a separate policy for > > the > > > new website weirdly leaves* https://wikimediafoundation.org/ > > > <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> as being defined to not be a major > > site > > > of WMF. * > > > > > > Irregardless of possible poor wording of both privacy policies, I find > it > > > strange that the main website for WMF has a tracking pixel and forces > > > visitors to provide users' personal information (as defined by either > > > privacy policies) to Google and Wordpress.com. > > > > > > Perhaps this is something WMF could revisit? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Chico Venancio > > > > > > [1]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy > > > [2]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#coverage > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-08-06 2:06 GMT-03:00 Yair Rand <yyairr...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > There are several more issues I've noticed with the new website: > > > > * According to the notice at the bottom, the company "Automattic > Inc." > > is > > > > receiving all sorts of data about all visitors to the site, including > > > > location information, cookie data, data from pixel tags/web beacons > > used > > > to > > > > track visitors and target ads on other WordPress sites, and other > data. > > > > * The "non-wiki privacy policy of the Wikimedia Foundation" linked at > > the > > > > bottom is different than the regular privacy policy. Why is this? > > > > * Much of the content is essentially English-Wikipedia-only. "Visit > The > > > > Teahouse for a friendly place to learn about editing" Most Wikipedias > > > don't > > > > have teahouses or equivalents. > > > > * In "Wikimedia projects": "Wikipedia - All the world's knowledge". > See > > > > [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of > > > information]]. > > > > * "Working with partners like Google, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, > > and > > > > UNESCO, Wikimedia...". I don't think most Wikimedians are okay with > the > > > WMF > > > > describing Google as among its partners. Nor the Met or UNESCO, for > > that > > > > matter. > > > > * In the "Technology" section, there's a paragraph devoted to > bragging > > > > about how NASA has an internal Mediawiki wiki. I don't think that > > belongs > > > > there. > > > > * The actual Wikimedia Foundation Mission is kind of buried deep in > the > > > > site. The Mission is the definitive version of what the WMF is > supposed > > > to > > > > be doing, and I really think it should be highlighted somewhere in a > > more > > > > prominent position. > > > > > > > > "The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage > > people > > > > around the world to collect and develop educational content under a > > free > > > > license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively > and > > > > globally. > > > > > > > > In collaboration with a network of chapters, the Wikimedia Foundation > > > > provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework > > for > > > > the support and development of multilingual wiki projects and other > > > > endeavors which serve this mission. The Foundation will make and keep > > > > useful information from its projects available on the Internet free > of > > > > charge, in perpetuity." > > > > > > > > -- Yair Rand > > > > > > > > 2018-08-03 17:12 GMT-04:00 Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>: > > > > > > > > > On 2 August 2018 at 02:51, Gregory Varnum <gvar...@wikimedia.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to clear > your > > > > > browser's cache): https://wikimediafoundation.org/ > > > > > > > > > > The home page currently says: > > > > > > > > > > " Everything on a Wikimedia site is available as Creative > Commons > > > > > material. " > > > > > > > > > > That is not true. Material includes: > > > > > > > > > > * PD content (copyright expires; US government, etc) > > > > > * Fair-use copyright material. > > > > > > > > > > In the latter case, suggesting otherwise could be harmful to our > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, the "Sesame Street" image used on the site's home page > > > > > and the linked article, is labelled on Commons: "This work might > not > > > > > be available under a free license in the United States because it > is > > > > > based on an artwork or sculpture that may be protected by copyright > > > > > under U.S. law." > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Andy Mabbett > > > > > @pigsonthewing > > > > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
