Many are. I've always been in favour of a "do what you think you can do under your responsibility"-model.
Any steward can do any action, still they don't do what they are not familiar with. For example I seldom use central notice. Vito Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 22:28 Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Anyone doing Commons stuff has to do have Commons skills. Wikipedia sysops > are not asked to have them, and do not have them by default. > > If Wikipedia sysops that deal with copyright want to be Commons admins, > they can apply anytime for that role. Otherwise, render to Caesar the > things that are Caesar's. > > Paulo > > > Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia domingo, 12/05/2019 à(s) > 21:13: > > > Major projects surely deal with a significant amount of uploads in an > > efficient way. > > > > Vito > > > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 17:31 Paulo Santos Perneta < > > paulospern...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > > > I absolutely disagree with this. A Wikipedia sysop do not necessarily > > has - > > > and from my experience, most of the time hasn't - the necessary skills > to > > > deal with copyright. > > > > > > Best, > > > Paulo > > > > > > A domingo, 12 de mai de 2019, 14:35, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to delete/undelete > images > > > on > > > > commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky commons' uploads come > > > from > > > > cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them could work. > > > > > > > > Vito > > > > > > > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman < > > jmh...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > ha scritto: > > > > > > > > > It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons interested > > in > > > > > having more admins? > > > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay > for > > > > > > access to the Google image matching API access so we could run a > > > > > > copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not be > > > > > > terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment to > > see > > > > > > if this aspect of the more boring side of sysop tools could be > > > > > > reduced.[1] > > > > > > > > > > > > Not specifically advocating auto-deletion, but daily housekeeping > > > > > > image matches to highly likely copyrighted categories would make > > mass > > > > > > housekeeping very easy. > > > > > > > > > > > > A separate old chestnut was my proposal to introduce systemic > image > > > > > > hashes, which neatly show "close" image matches.[2] With a > Commons > > > hat > > > > > > on, such a project would be of far more immediate pragmatic use > > than > > > > > > mobile-related and structured data-related projects that seem to > > suck > > > > > > up all the oxygen and volunteer time available. > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that the history of these project/funding ideas is so long, > > that > > > > > > several of the most experienced long term volunteers that were > > > > > > originally interested have since retired. Without some positive > > short > > > > > > term encouragement, not only do these ideas never reach the > useful > > > > > > experiment stage, but the volunteers involved simply fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2016/02#Google_has_opened_an_API_for_image_recognition > > > > > > 2. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Imagehash > > > > > > > > > > > > Fae > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani < > ladsgr...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores > > > support > > > > > for > > > > > > > images that might be copyright violation, or both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter < > > ymb...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared with > > the > > > > > > amount of > > > > > > > > material it has to deal with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Yaroslav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta < > > > > > > benjaminik...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing > or > > > > > capable > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz < > > > polime...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all > > > undeleted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing > > several > > > > > > > > GLAM-related > > > > > > > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page > > > describing > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you > > can > > > > > > create a > > > > > > > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See: > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes > > with > > > > > > Common's > > > > > > > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to > > promote > > > > you > > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > similar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for > uploaders, > > > but > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds of copyright > > > > violating > > > > > > > > files a > > > > > > > > > > day: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the list from just one day: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins have > to > > > > cope > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and > after > > > > some > > > > > > time - > > > > > > > > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves... and > > the > > > > > other > > > > > > > > issue > > > > > > > > > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think - sooner or later - all this system - uploads - > > > > screening > > > > > > > > uploads > > > > > > > > > > by admins, and OTRS agreements - needs deep rethinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 10:48 Mister Thrapostibongles < > > > > > > > > > > thrapostibong...@gmail.com> napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello all, > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the > > > > Commons > > > > > > > > > components > > > > > > > > > >> of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia > > > Commons: a > > > > > > highly > > > > > > > > > >> hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at > > the > > > > > > Education > > > > > > > > > >> Newsletter > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Commons:_a_highly_hostile_place_for_multimedia_students_contributions > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> As far as I can understand it, some students on an > > Outreach > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > >> uploaded some rather well-made video material, and > comeone > > > on > > > > > > Commons > > > > > > > > > >> deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be > > > student > > > > > > projects > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >> so concluded they were copyright violations. 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