Hello Paulo,
Thanks for restoring those images. If images are routinely deleted this way, I'm afraid it would be difficult to retain new editors. Affiliates invest a lot of time and resources to recruit new volunteers through various programs/project and if their uploads are blindly deleted this way, then it's a problem that needs urgent attention. I honestly can't think of the best approach at the moment but something needs to be done. Regards, Isaac On Sun, May 12, 2019, 8:48 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <paulospern...@gmail.com wrote: > This is true. I verified and restored almost all the files. There was one > or two problems with students who uploaded an occasional derivative work > (integrated in their own work), but almost all the files were OK, and > correctly uploaded. The main problem here, IMO, was marking sourced stuff > as "no source" without any explanation, marking stiff as derivative work > without explaining or stating what the original work was, and then deleting > it uncritically. I understand there is a tremendous backlog in Commons, and > the community is tiny and most of the sysops (on which I include myself) > are generally more interested in other activities than the regular > management of the project, but IMO this sort of behavior should not be seen > as acceptable. IMO it would be preferable to not delete or mark anything at > all, and let the backlog grow freely, than to do it this way. On the other > hand, in general the sysops with this kind of behavior are the most > productive in the whole management of the project, and I feel I've no right > to criticize when I have no plans to regularly help in what they are doing > with such dedication. > > Best, > Paulo > > Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder...@hotmail.com> escreveu no dia domingo, > 12/05/2019 à(s) 20:18: > > > Well.. there where instructions. All the videos were supervised before > > uploading, all the songs were perfectly cited at the descriptions and all > > the own work was marked as own work. This are the instructiones to follow > > when uploading to Commons. > > ________________________________ > > From: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of > > Peter Southwood <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 7:59 PM > > To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach > > > > It seems to be a situation where there were no clear instructions, so > > people did what they thought was a good idea, but others thought it was a > > bad idea. No communications, now the blame is being spread without > > analysing the problem and proposing a solution. Not an unusual situation > > really. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > > Behalf Of Mister Thrapostibongles > > Sent: 11 May 2019 08:53 > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach > > > > Hello all, > > > > There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons > components > > of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a highly > > hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education > > Newsletter > > > > > > > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Commons:_a_highly_hostile_place_for_multimedia_students_contributions > > > > As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach project > > uploaded some rather well-made video material, and comeone on Commons > > deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be student projects > and > > so concluded they were copyright violations. But some rather odd remarks > > were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of uploaded > copyrighted > > content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that doesn't care." > > and > > "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud storage for > > images you intend to use on Wikipedia ". > > > > Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute? > > > > Thrapostibongles > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
