Hi Todd, I'm not sure how your comment about "backchanneling" is applicable to a recording made in public. Please express your views in a good-faith and respectful manner.
On Wikimedia projects, we do things in full public view. To prove your point, please link to the log of the irc channels and the admin back-channels to start with. Aron On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 19:21, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nicole, > > While I appreciate you taking the time to respond, this is exactly why we > distrust this kind of backchanneling. If you have something to say, you say > it publicly, open to criticism and dispute. You don't say it in a "salon" > or a "survey" or anything else insulated from that. On Wikimedia projects, > we do things in full public view. > > Todd > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 10:14 AM Nicole Ebber <nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de> > wrote: > > > Hello again, > > > > I now realised that none of the participants in the audience was aware > > of us recording them, and that we aren't able to identify them to ask > > for their consent. We are not going to release the full video, but are > > of course happy to answer potential questions and create more clarity > > where needed. > > > > Best wishes, > > Nicole > > > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 11:30, Nicole Ebber <nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Todd, > > > > > > Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if > > > for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, > > > and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our > > > main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad > > > context and content of each recommendation in a quick and accessible > > > way, without putting too much emphasis on specific recommendations or > > > details. > > > > > > We'll look into whether the dialogues offer additional clarity. We > > > might also have to identify those who have asked the questions and get > > > their consent to publish. That can take a couple of days, so please > > > stay tuned. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Nicole > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:25, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Nicole, > > > > > > > > The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example, > > several > > > > jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the > > > > presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is > > clearly > > > > being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the video. > > Could > > > > you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts, including > > any > > > > questions or comments and the responses to them? > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber < > > nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement > > strategy > > > > > recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part. > > The > > > > > community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - > you > > > > > can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German, > > Hindi, > > > > > Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or > > > > > organization, or send the core team your feedback to > > > > > strategy2...@wikimedia.org. > > > > > > > > > > This current round of community conversations is the last > opportunity > > > > > to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be > > finalized > > > > > before the end of March, and then published for the movement to > > > > > understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local, > > or > > > > > thematic context, and move into implementation. > > > > > > > > > > == Movement feedback: what happens next == > > > > > All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an > ongoing > > > > > basis. Here are the next steps after February 21: > > > > > > > > > > * Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the > > > > > feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue > commenting > > > > > and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as > > > > > closely facilitated and documented. > > > > > > > > > > * Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above > > report > > > > > on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content > and > > > > > give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The > > > > > closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be > > > > > finalized and published. > > > > > > > > > > In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement > > > > > conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the > creation > > > > > of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for > things > > > > > that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to > > > > > have the recommendations finalized and published in late March. > More > > > > > about the actual integration work coming soon. > > > > > > > > > > == Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == > > > > > Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge > > > > > Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager - > > > > > recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise > > overview > > > > > of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was > > > > > developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation > slides > > > > > [3] are now on Commons. > > > > > > > > > > Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m > > > > > speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement > > > > > strategy[4]. > > > > > > > > > > The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very > > > > > popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this > together. > > > > > In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now also > > > > > available in Farsi [5, 6]. > > > > > > > > > > == Meeting notes from the office hours == > > > > > We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7] from > > > > > the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday, > January > > > > > 30. The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions > > that > > > > > were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the > > > > > responses. > > > > > > > > > > == Do you have further questions? == > > > > > Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on > > > > > February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy > > > > > recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting > hosted > > > > > by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part > and > > > > > help answer any questions people may have about the > recommendations. > > > > > Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any of > > the > > > > > above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a look > > at > > > > > our FAQ section [9]. > > > > > > > > > > Happy weekend, > > > > > Nicole > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommendations_presentation_at_WMF_All-Hands_2020.webm > > > > > [3] > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WMF_All_Hands_2020.pdf > > > > > [4] > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_interview.mp3#%7B%7Bint%3Afiledesc%7D%7D > > > > > [5] > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_version_of_the_Wikimedia_2030_movement_strategy_recommendations.pdf > > > > > [6] > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%8A%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%A9_2030.pdf > > > > > [7] > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/Movement_strategy_office_hours_notes > > > > > [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Caf%C3%A9 > > > > > [9] > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Nicole Ebber > > > > > Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen > > > > > Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e. 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