The UCoC is obviously a WMF-driven project. It was announced in June 2019 by a member of the WMF Trust and Safety team, was added to the strategy process by the group of WMF appointees (or sometimes WMF appointee-appointees) who made up the working group, had pseudo-consultations about it started by WMF staff (with wildly-misleading reports written up afterward, again by the WMF), and the UCoC itself was drafted by a mixed group of WMF staff and WMF appointees, through a process set by the WMF.
The communities have repeatedly expressed unambiguous consensus against having a WMF-imposed UCoC. The WMF has absolutely no business in setting ordinary conduct policy, and they could have the ED and every board member and C-level declare the UCoC to be policy, and threaten every affiliate into declaring it as policy, and the only impact would be demonstrating how far removed they are from Wikimedia. The communities are self-governing and will implement policy based on community decisions. That said, I disagree with Dan's calls for nonparticipation/noncooperation or for specifically withholding funds or support. If we end up in a situation where the WMF tries to block, desysop, threaten, or sue contributors, or to seize control over the projects, that would be the time for all editors and affiliates and donors to level-headedly level the Foundation to its foundations. Until then, we should attempt to work with them, even when their behaviour leaves much to be desired. -- Yair Rand בתאריך יום ד׳, 9 בספט׳ 2020 ב-16:03 מאת Jackie < jackie.koer...@gmail.com>: > Hi Dan, > > I hear that you are upset by the suggestion and likely implementation of a > Universal Code of Conduct. I also hear that you feel like this is a > WMF-driven project. I cannot change your opinion about the UCoC, but I can > say your feelings about this being a WMF-driven project are untrue. It > doesn't matter how strongly you feel this, it's actually many groups of > people working together. It was determined as a major need during > discussions I had as part of the Community Health Working Group and I am > glad to see this moving forward. > > I am glad you feel comfortable expressing yourself and your feelings about > the UCoC. I also would like to say the way in which people express > themselves and mask insults as "lively discussion" is a huge reason why we > need a UCoC. To that point, I agree with Isaac and would suggest you share > in a (collegiate) conversation on the Meta talk page. I just cannot take > you seriously with the language you used in your email. I, however, would > love to take your comments seriously and have you engage in a good-faith > discussion about the UCoC. > > Our roles in the discussion should consider not only our needs as > individuals but the needs of the broader communities. To dismiss the UCoC > is failing to recognize privilege and power structures and their effect on > people in and outside of the Wikimedia community. > > Best, > > Jackie > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:42 PM Isaac Olatunde <reachout2is...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello Dan, > > > > You are allowed to offer an opinion but I Honestly think that's better > and > > more useful on the Draft talk page. > > > > That being said, by "effective vote or representation in the > proceedings", > > you probably expected a different model where different language > > Wikip(m)edia community would be represented or vote on weather to have a > > UCoC. > > > > The current model isn't bad. I do think we should review the draft and > if > > there are specific wording we disagree with, we can either suggest > > improvement or removal altogether. I honestly think we need to help and > > support the drafting committee at this stage. > > > > Regards > > > > Isaac > > > > On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 19:25 Dan Szymborski, <dszymbor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I'm also perfectly free to express to the IRS that I'd really like to > > get a > > > $10 million check from them at tax time. The ability to offer an > opinion > > on > > > proceedings with no effective vote or representation in the proceedings > > is > > > about as good as a fart in the wind. I'd prefer the WMF keep its > > flatulence > > > to itself. > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Isaac Olatunde < > reachout2is...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On the contrary, I do not think this is an imposition by the Board or > > WMF > > > > as we are allowed to comment on the draft, and suggest improvement. > > > > > > > > I have been following the process closely and I do not see anything > > that > > > > looks like an "imposition" > > > > > > > > The Universal Code of Conduct is not a substitute to the existing > > policy > > > or > > > > guidelines but a behavioural guidelines expected of users in any > > > Wikimedia > > > > project. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Isaac > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 16:11 Dan Szymborski, <dszymbor...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > As this is being explicitly imposed by the board from above without > > > > > community approval, participating in any way is ethically unsound. > > > Doubly > > > > > so without a board election preceding this as the WMF has > arbitrarily > > > > > denied communities the right, as manifested in the election of the > > > > > community seats, to voice their opinions of actions that WMF has > > taken > > > > over > > > > > the last 18 months. A collaborative process is a collaborative > > process > > > > when > > > > > it's actually a collaborative process, not just when it's called > one. > > > > > > > > > > The best use of time at this point is to organize the communities > to > > > use > > > > > every means at its disposal to resist such an imposition. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 4:18 PM Patrick Earley < > pear...@wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of Conduct > > > > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>, > which > > > the > > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier this > year > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2020_-_Board_of_Trustees_on_Healthy_Community_Culture,_Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces > > > > > > >, > > > > > > for your review and feedback. The discussion will be open until > > > October > > > > > 6, > > > > > > 2020. > > > > > > > > > > > > The UCoC Drafting Committee > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Drafting_committee > > > > > > >wants > > > > > > to learn which parts of the draft would present challenges for > you > > or > > > > > your > > > > > > work. What is missing from this draft? What do you like, and what > > > could > > > > > be > > > > > > improved? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to the Committee, and everyone who has helped with > > > > > translations > > > > > > so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please join the conversation > > > > > > < > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review > > > > > > > > > and share this email with others who may be interested to join, > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about the UCoC project, see the Universal Code of > > > Conduct > > > > > > page > > > > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>, and > > the > > > > FAQ > > > > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ>, > > on > > > > > Meta. > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2020_-_Board_of_Trustees_on_Healthy_Community_Culture,_Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces > > > > > > > > > > > > [3] > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review > > > > > > [4] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Patrick Earley > > > > > > Policy Manager, Trust and Safety > > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > > > pear...@wikimedia.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > -- > Jackie Koerner, Ph.D. > jackiekoerner.com > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
