hi lisa,

have a good start into the new year everybody! should not, ideally, the
legal team of amanda keton be able to tell if fundting something is legal?
or is this a liability issue, so tides would be liable for misconduct, and
not a person within wikimedia foundation?

rupert


On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:18 PM Lisa Gruwell <lgruw...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Hi Mike-
>
> Thanks for the question.  The review and oversight that we will get from
> Tides is nothing like the FDC review.  They will be looking at, for
> example, "Is this grant supporting activity that is legal for a 501c3 to
> fund?"  It is in no way a replacement for the work that the FDC or the
> Global Council would do regarding grants.
>
> Best,
> Lisa
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:55 PM Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> Isn’t this the oversight work that the WMF wanted to be able to do when
>> it changed from Wikimedia affiliates being able to fundraise directly to
>> the FDC process? Why has WMF chosen to outsource this to Tides rather than
>> continuing to do it in-house? And why does Tides now get to approve such
>> grants, rather than a community appointed committee?
>>
>> FDC was a process that worked extremely well, and was discontinued for
>> obscure reasons. The Global Council approach that the strategy was heading
>> towards looked like it might be a good replacement. Outsourcing it to Tides
>> seems really bad.
>>
>> Boldly creating a new fund for fellow organisations looks nice, but
>> without community involvement it’s a controversy in development.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 14 Dec 2020, at 20:11, Lisa Gruwell <lgruw...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris-
>>
>> I am happy to answer your questions about Tides.  No, Tides is not
>> picking the grantees.  The docket of grantees and the specific of the
>> grants comes from us.  Tides provides legal and administrative review of
>> the grants,  approves them, and processes the grants(i.e. wires the funding
>> to the grantees).  It is rare that there is ever a problem, but if Tides
>> were to see one, we actually appreciate the outside review and would be
>> open to hearing their reasons.  There is no change for the reporting and
>> transparency requirements for APG grants. Tides will also not be making
>> recommendations for the grants for the Knowledge Equity Fund.  They will
>> play a similar role as I described for the APG grants. Again, I know there
>> will be more info on the Knowledge Equity Fund in the new year.  I ask your
>> patience for the folks initiating this and trust that they will share more
>> soon.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lisa
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:18 AM Chris Keating <
>> chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Lisa. That statement makes a lot of sense, though I do have some
>>> questions still.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our first priority was to ensure that we had enough funding to support
>>>> community grants. We transferred the full amount for Annual Plan Grants
>>>> (APG) for FY20-21 over to Tides to ensure that all funding for
>>>> affiliates for this year was secured, regardless of how fundraising
>>>> performed. It also gives staff at affiliates and the Foundation more time
>>>> to work together to make thoughtful grants, instead of an end-of-year rush.
>>>> All affiliates who will be receiving funding through Tides were informed of
>>>> the arrangement last summer. All other grantmaking (Community Grants,
>>>> Rapid Grants, Project Grants) are still being funded through WMF directly,
>>>> as usual. There is a round of APG grants set to go out via Tides this week.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are Tides simply administering these funds at the WMF's direction, or
>>> will Tides start to take over decisions about who gets these grants and
>>> what amount different entities are eligible for? Has there been any change
>>> to the reporting and transparency requirements that go with the APG grants?
>>> What is the intention about how APG grants will work, since the FDC was
>>> abolished a couple of years ago and there is unlikely to be any
>>> community-driven replacement for it until at least a year or two's work has
>>> gone into the implementation of the strategy?
>>>
>>>
>>>> As of now, this is a one-time commitment of approximately $4.5 million.
>>>> We are still working on the specific initial objectives of the fund and how
>>>> it will operate. As a pilot initiative, we’ll be learning and adapting as
>>>> we go.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Funding knowledge equity sounds like a great idea, but I have not
>>> previously heard of an organisation making an irrecoverable $4.5 million
>>> transfer without knowing what that money will be used to fund. Is there
>>> anything more that can be shared apart from "it'll be used to fund
>>> knowledge equity somehow"? And as above - is this going to be a WMF-led
>>> process (maybe even involving the community), or will Tides be actually
>>> making recommendations about who and what is funded? If the latter, how are
>>> Tides going to adjust to the Wikimedia community's expectations about
>>> transparency?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
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