A zim collection tool, hooked into / upgrading the current collections extension, would be the best of many worlds. S
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 2:23 PM Emmanuel Engelhart <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > > A few things I can share from openZIM/Kiwix perspective on this: > * This, special:book feature, was a good tool 10 years ago > * This would have deserved to be improved/maintained/developed over years > * Today it looks abandoned and I hardly see how we could live a revival > from the Wikimedia side > * We, at openZIM/Kiwix, have been doing Wikipedia selections since 15 > years for the WP1 project > * This is something we want to improve and we want to allow more people > to do their own selections automatically, half-automatically or even > manually. > * We even have a stub at https://wp1.openzim.org/ (not really usable, > but the software foundations are there). > * We believe we could provide something even better than what the > Collection extension was. > * Basic Idea is to make a clear separation between (1) selection > platform providing an API (2) Mediawiki Gadget for manual selection on > the Mediawiki instance (3) external rendering platforms... and we are > interested in the ZIM rendering of course but we could think of > enrolling any compatible with the API. > > A bit of technical insight can be found here > https://github.com/openzim/wp1/issues?q=is%3Aissue++label%3Aselections+ > with these tickets around selection of latest Google Summer of Code. > > If someone is interested to have a talk on this topic, feel free to > contact me. > > Regards > Kelson > > On 17.04.22 18:12, Tito Dutta wrote: > > Hello, > > This was a very useful tool for the readers. I used it a lot when it was > > working. > > User namespace books page category shows 50,000 subpages: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:User_namespace_book_pages > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:User_namespace_book_pages> > > (Please see language sidebar for other languages) > > Regards. > > > > > > রবি, ১৭ এপ্রিল, ২০২২ তারিখে ৯:১৮ PM টায় তারিখে Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> লিখেছেন: > > > > No one or very few use it, because you can't save a book. I had some > > teachers in our university courses who used it to download what > > their students did, but since the WMF decided to break it, evidently > > they are not using it anymore. I repeat: it worked and it was broken > > in purpose. So now we have an option to create a book but no actual > > book can be created, besides printing it with PediaPress. > > > > 2022(e)ko api. 17(a) 09:59 erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du ("Amir E. > > Aharoni" <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>): > > > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 09:29 Strainu <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > The correct question is: does it still do anything of value? > > > בתאריך יום א׳, 17 באפר׳ 2022 ב-10:42 מאת Jan Ainali > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > > > > > Even with all output options broken it is still a decent user > > interface for creating and organizing collections of articles. > > > > This may well be true, but I'm wondering how much is it > > *actually* used. I know I never use it, but it's possible that > > thousand of other people do. If it's true, then everything is > > fine. I can't find a log of its usage, or a statistics page that > > shows how often do people use this feature. > > > > It currently appears in at least two prominent places: > > 1. "Create a book" link in the desktop sidebar (in some wikis; I > > don't see it in the English Wikipedia, but I do see it in > > Swedish and Basque). > > 2. "Extensions used by Wikimedia - Main" group in > > translatewiki.net <http://translatewiki.net>, which means that > > volunteer localizers are asked to translate it with (relatively) > > high priority. > > > > If only, say, five people use it in the whole Wikimedia > > universe, then perhaps someone should consider downgrading its > > prominence or maybe removing it entirely. > > > > On translatewiki, I can move it from "Extensions used by > > Wikimedia - Main" to "Extensions used by Wikimedia - Advanced" > > or even to "Extensions used by Wikimedia - Legacy", but again, > > before I do this, I'd like to make sure that it's not actually > > used by a lot of people. > > > > -- > > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > > http://aharoni.wordpress.com <http://aharoni.wordpress.com> > > “We're living in pieces, > > I want to live in peace.” – T. 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