Hoi,
I know the license... is it wise to use these pictures? What is it that the
WMF advises?
Thanks,
GerardM
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 14:38, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Fjmustak (Farah Jack Mustaklem, a recent candidate for the WMF board) has
> uploaded a picture of the two jailed Wikipedians, Osama Khalid
> (User:OsamaK) and Ziyad Alsufyani (User:Ziad), to Commons:
>
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Osama_Khalid_and_Ziyad_Alsufyani.jpg
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 12:41 AM Wikimedia Trust and Safety <
> c...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> We would like to thank you, Nanour, for the suggestion and apologize that
>> the suggestion was necessary. We have now translated our message to the
>> community into Arabic and posted a further update
>> <https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AA#Foundation_statement>
>> there, as we were made aware that much of the erroneous information
>> spreading in the press and on social media is causing a lot of distress
>> within our Arabic Wikipedia communities. Here is the updated text:
>>
>> Our investigation and these bans are not connected to the arrest of these
>> two users. The ban decision impacted 16 users, not all of whom were
>> administrators, from Arabic and Farsi Wikipedia. As stated below, we have
>> no reason to believe that these individuals are all residents of Saudi
>> Arabia; on the contrary, this seems extremely unlikely. Further, we imagine
>> you are all aware that editors are volunteers, not paid by the Foundation,
>> and that the Foundation does not have offices or staff in Saudi Arabia.
>>
>> While, as stated, the December office action is unrelated to the arrests
>> of two Wikimedians in Saudi Arabia, the safety of Wikimedia volunteers
>> always remains our utmost concern. We understand the desire to take action
>> or speak out. Know that we need to act in the interests of any volunteer
>> whose safety is under threat. As indicated in yesterday’s message,
>> additional publicity around such cases can cause harm, as can speculation
>> and misinformation. We are confident that everyone values the safety of
>> their fellow volunteers and can understand the constraints this might
>> create.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> WMF Office/Trust and Safety
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 7:26 PM Wikimedia Trust and Safety <
>> c...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Over the last couple of days, there have been several media reports
>>> about the Foundation’s most recent office action, taken on December 6
>>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/NJUOKYM2UTKFH53OKGIXW6OSEEDUI3AL/>.
>>> More are certain to follow. These media reports are based on a release from
>>> SMEX and Democracy for the Arab World Now (DAWN) that contains many
>>> material inaccuracies. Some of the errors will be obvious to our community
>>> - for perhaps the most obvious, the report states that the 16 users are all
>>> based in Saudi Arabia . This is unlikely to be the case. While we do not
>>> know where these volunteers actually reside, the bans of any volunteers who
>>> may have been Saudi were part of a much broader action globally banning 16
>>> editors across the MENA region. Indeed, many of them are not active in the
>>> Arabic language projects. These organizations did not share the statement
>>> with the Foundation, and “sources of knowledge” as cited in their release
>>> can get things wrong. In addition, we do not have staff in the country
>>> named and never have, contrary to a message put out by the same groups on
>>> social media.
>>>
>>> As we noted in December in our statement, we are unable to discuss
>>> Foundation office actions in detail. The Foundation always lists
>>> accounts banned as a result of its investigations
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Global_Ban_Policy#List_of_global_bans_placed_by_the_Wikimedia_Foundation>.
>>> It is our goal to be as transparent as we can be within essential
>>> protection policies, which is why we do not ban in secret, but instead
>>> disclose accounts impacted and (when large numbers are involved) have
>>> disclosed the rationale.
>>>
>>> The roots of our December action stretch back over several years. We
>>> were initially contacted by outside experts who made us aware about
>>> concerns they had about Farsi Wikipedia. We can’t comment on that report
>>> right now, but it will be published by that organization soon. This report
>>> not only contributed to our August 23, 2021 modification of our
>>> non-disclosure agreement
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Confidentiality_agreement_for_nonpublic_information&diff=21925066&oldid=21609723>
>>> to make it harder for rights-holders to be coerced, but led to further
>>> evaluation of issues across MENA. The December bans were the culmination of
>>> those evaluations.
>>>
>>> Wikimedia is, as mentioned above, an open knowledge platform, and it
>>> thrives on open participation. Investigations and global bans are not
>>> things that any of us take lightly, but the Foundation is committed to
>>> supporting the knowledge-sharing models that have created so many valuable
>>> information resources in hundreds of languages across the world. Our first
>>> line of defense of our Terms of Use
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use#4._Refraining_from_Certain_Activities>
>>> are our volunteers themselves. Where issues present a credible threat of
>>> harm to our users and to the security of Wikimedia platforms, we will do
>>> the best we can to protect both.
>>>
>>> We trust and hope that our communities understand that misinformation
>>> about this action has the potential to cause harm to the individuals
>>> involved. We believe in the incredible value produced by our volunteers
>>> across the globe, but even so we recognize that being found in
>>> contravention of a website’s Terms of Use — even in a manner that
>>> organization finds serious enough to warrant a ban — is not the equivalent
>>> of being convicted of any crime. Accordingly, we ask you to please be
>>> conscious of the real people involved, in the spirit of our long
>>> established respect for living people on our sites
>>> <https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Biographies_of_living_people>.
>>> We realize that it is tempting to speculate, but we do ask you all to
>>> recall that people’s employment options, their relationships, and even
>>> their physical safety may be compromised by speculation.
>>>
>>> If anyone feels unsafe on Wikimedia projects, please use the local
>>> community processes or contact us. The Foundation and community will work
>>> together or in parallel to enhance the safety of all volunteers. To contact
>>> the Trust & Safety team please email c...@wikimedia.org .
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> WMF Office/Trust and Safety
>>>
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