Bon dia / Hi,
I would like to ask around about the fact that we have very significant
imbalances of official statistics when it comes to the traffic in our wiki
projects.
Let's look at the reading gross value for the English Wikipedia on January
2024. Without applying any kind of filtering to their searching method, the
website Wikimedia Stats shows 12.697.373.117 visits, while the Pageviews tool
from the WikimediaCloud in Toolforge yields 8.864.755.474 visits.
This is a huge figure disparity, and both data repositories are hosted "under
the same roog" and most likely are the two more widely used tools for this
purpose. Am I wrong? For a smaller project, like the Catalan Wikipedia, there
is a 19.5M vs 64.5M inconsistency... Which changes a lot our conclusions in a
tech situation in which we are socially dealing with Google hiding results in
our language from its search engine since a couple of years ago. What am I
missing about these value differences? As an experienced editor, I have been
regularly digging in our available data tools for several years. But it's
difficult not to encounter frequent problems of comparability, false positives,
and reliability. Not only for my personal pleasure, but when it comes to easily
explain our projects' data to the outside world via referring to a trustworthy
portal.
That adds up to the fact that we are not able to see itemised statistics for
some small countries in Wikimedia Stats. We can filter how many millions of
visits does the Dutch Wikipedia get in Belgium or in the Netherlands, but we
cannot see which is the language use of each Wikipedia in Belgium (% of readers
that accesses it in French, Dutch, German, Walloon, Picard, English, etc). That
feature disappeared in 2018 with the last update of the dismantled WiViVi
portal. Altogether, it makes it impossible to tackle biases or plan actions by
chapters, user groups or even academic policies regarding awareness or
revitalization of minoritized and endangered languages.
I am afraid that, this being my experience as a long-term editor, the ones of
newcomers, journalists, or even scientists may still be much more uncertain and
confusing. Hopefully someone can help to figure out some of these questions.
Salutacions / Best regards,
Xavier Dengra
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