Thanks for sharing the diff, Pavan. Here are a few observations from our experience of working with probably over a thousand new Wikimedians over the past five years, the majority of whom are mobile phone users
We run annual Wikimedia bootcamps at a high school in Bangladesh, with the number of participants ranging from 150 to 500 each year, the number depends on the circumstances of that year's edition. You can know more about it from this diff: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/06/24/ndec-wikimedia-bootcamp-2024-we-did-it/ Around 80% of our participants are mobile phone users. Since this bootcamp is their first entry into the Wikimediaverse, it plays a crucial role in shaping their overall Wikimedia experience. The statistics and other learnings can be found in this diff: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/06/27/ndec-wikimedia-bootcamp-2024-the-lessons/ Our audience consists of 16-17-year-old high school students. Every year, the most frequently asked question is whether they can work for the Wikimedia movement using a mobile phone. While we respond positively, we do so with some hesitation. The Wikipedia Adventure <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure> (TWA) is a mandatory assignment for our Wikimedia bootcamp participants each year, as it saves us a considerable amount of work. TWA is not designed for mobile phones, so we suggest participants use the desktop web version from their browsers (TWA was even down during our 2024 edition of the bootcamp). Unfortunately, the small mobile phone screens make it difficult for the desktop version to fit properly, leading to challenges like accurately tapping on specific tool icons, which often results in unintentional bad edits during the bootcamp. We don't suggest the mobile app since very few features are available there. The participants are just high schoolers and often have to depend on their parents for digital devices. Parents either don't allow them to use a laptop or desktop considering their age, or the families simply can't afford one; the socio-economic context plays a big role here. As a result, mobile phones are the most accessible device for them. Contributing to any Wikimedia project via mobile phone, even using the desktop view, is very challenging. This is one of the major reasons for the low retention rate of our bootcamps. When participants who use mobile phones find that contributing to Wikimedia is complex and time-consuming, it feels like a waste of their time and effort. This is especially problematic given that they have homework, assignments, labs, and exams every week, making it difficult to carve out time for Wikimedia contributions. I agree with what you said in your diff: > It’s not just about providing alternative means of access; it’s about > making sure that the primary mode of access for a majority of users—mobile > devices—is as user-friendly and intuitive as possible. But while working as organizers of such large-scale outreach projects, we neither have the capacity to provide participants with alternatives nor can we make the Wikimedia ecosystem mobile-friendly for them. We are trying to convince a few tech startups in the country to donate some devices, as they produce affordable Linux PCs in the price range of mobile phones (around 50 - 100 USD). Convincing them is tough since we don't have anything to offer them in exchange. We are unable to buy these devices for our contributors because we can't receive grants from Bangladesh. Managing a few PCs for the participants is merely a bandaid solution rather than a sustainable fix, but it's the least we can do for now. Beyond direct on-wiki editing, there are other indirect bottlenecks too. I lead Project Korikath <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Project_Korikath> and Project Shoili <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Project_Shoili>. Project Korikath works to bring media files related to local topics to Wikimedia Commons. We have to edit hundreds, sometimes over a thousand images after every photowalk <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Project_Korikath-Photowalk>, which is completely impossible without a PC, our volunteers take help from their friends who have PCs. If you look at this cinematography <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lumen_Sapientiae.webm> produced by Project Korikath, you'll see that the color grading has been messed up because we were using an old cheap monitor that didn't display proper colors. Project Shoili helps Wikimedia communities from all over the world with graphic design. Here, PCs are essential for our contributors. We voluntarily design logos, posters, and even brand entire Wikimedia events for any wikimedia group that requests <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Project_Shoili-Community_Requests> it. We can't create complex illustrations or 3D models because they crash the PCs of our contributors. Having access to a standard device impacts Wikimedians' capacity both directly and indirectly, and we currently don't have a feasible solution to address this issue. Best, Rafi On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 4:02 AM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, a thousand times yes! This is one of our great weaknesses, > experienced most by editors who only have phones to access the sites. But > it is also quite hard for me, and I regularly put off even small edits > until I am at a laptop or desktop. > > Thank you for writing this, Pavan. I will share it. > > > 🌍🌏🌎🌑 > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 8:33 AM Pavan Santhosh via Wikimedia-l < > wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> Dear Fellow Wikimedians, >> >> I am Pavan Santhosh, an Indian Wikimedian and Program Manager of CIS-A2K. >> [1] I would like to share my recent article on the Diff titled "A Case >> for Mobile Editing >> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/06/13/a-case-for-mobile-editing/>". >> >> The article discusses the challenges faced by users, particularly in the >> Global Majority countries, when editing Wikipedia on mobile devices. >> Despite the increasing number of mobile internet users, the current mobile >> editing tools are not user-friendly, limiting effective contributions. It >> emphasizes the need for improving mobile editing features to enhance >> inclusivity and accessibility. >> >> I believe this is crucial for the advancement of the Wikimedia movement >> and would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions on the aspects >> discussed in my article. >> >> Best regards, >> Pavan Santhosh, >> Program Manager, >> CIS-A2K. >> >> [1} https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/KN57VQ7MZPWAXAPBECHPZ2OW7MVKEJDJ/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/AGS4SFMGB3ZYK2RZS6ORQEP5MO7DQLQB/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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