*Subjekt: Barriers to Contributing to Kazakh Wikipedia* Dear all,
thank you for your comments. I would like to clarify that my initial message was not meant as criticism of individuals but as constructive feedback on systemic barriers within Kazakh Wikipedia. My intention was to highlight the structural difficulties new editors face: strict edit filters, lack of response in incubator spaces, and limited access to discussion pages. I believe addressing these issues could strengthen the Kazakh Wikipedia community and encourage more high-quality contributions. I will leave it to the community to reflect on this. Kind regards, Andreas Buller Am Di., 19. Aug. 2025 um 14:24 Uhr schrieb Avis <[email protected]>: > Hey Andreas. > Just wanted to share some general policies about biographies of living > persons, at least on the English Wikipedia. > In general, notability is not limited to any particular language(s). If a > person is notable enough for a given language version of Wikipedia, an > article can be created. > Additionally, subjects of the article are generally requested to > effectively *never directly edit *their own articles, including those in > the draft space. > You are encouraged to see the edit requests page at > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests. > Additionally, as this draft is in the draft space, it is not widely > visible, as it likely does not yet meet Wikipedia’s strict restrictions on > biographies of living persons. It, upon completion, will be evaluated > against those restrictions. > Thanks! > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 12:52 Andreas Buller <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear Wikipedia Administrators Jeams, >> >> I request the deletion of the draft article about me in the >> English-language Wikipedia. I have no connection to the English-speaking >> world and therefore do not wish to have an entry in this language edition. >> I have made this request before. >> >> Please note that in other language editions, unverified claims and >> assumptions have been made about my motives. Such statements are not >> supported by evidence and contradict the principle of assuming good faith. >> >> Thank you for your understanding and for processing this request. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> Andreas Buller >> >> James Heilman <[email protected]> schrieb am Fr. 15. Aug. 2025 um 15:40: >> >>> The English version is poor >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Andreas_Buller&action=history >>> >>> It is advised that your read this >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiography >>> >>> James >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 1:08 PM Andreas Buller <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> Yes, I have an article about myself, but it was only published after >>>> the notability review by the German Wikipedia. The administrators of the >>>> German Wikipedia decided that the entry is notable. My entry was written in >>>> a neutral tone and supported by numerous sources (interviews and >>>> publications). >>>> >>>> However, my concern is about the lack of cooperation with the Kazakh >>>> Wikipedia (restricted access to the encyclopedia and absolutely no >>>> response). The German, Russian, and Ukrainian Wikipedias work perfectly >>>> well, but I have problems with the Kazakh Wiki. >>>> >>>> By the way, I have mainly contributed entries — especially in the >>>> Russian Wikipedia — in my field of expertise (Koselleck, the concept of the >>>> trace). So I write less about myself and more about topics that interest >>>> me. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Andreas Buller >>>> >>>> >>>> James Heilman <[email protected]> schrieb am Sa. 9. Aug. 2025 um 09:28: >>>> >>>>> So you were trying to publish an article about yourself? >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 20:26 Andreas Buller <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> *To the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki Community,* >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to raise a concern based on my recent experience >>>>>> contributing to the Kazakh-language Wikipedia (kkwiki). >>>>>> >>>>>> As a published academic with experience contributing to German, >>>>>> Russian, and Ukrainian Wikipedias, I attempted to publish a thoroughly >>>>>> sourced and neutrally written article on *Andreas Buller*, a >>>>>> philosopher and author with demonstrable notability across languages and >>>>>> regions. The article was already successfully published in three other >>>>>> Wikipedia editions: >>>>>> >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> German Wikipedia >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Russian Wikipedia >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Ukrainian Wikipedia >>>>>> >>>>>> However, in Kazakh Wikipedia I encountered multiple layers of >>>>>> technical and editorial obstacles that effectively *prevented* me >>>>>> from publishing this article under normal conditions: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Mandatory use of the Incubator*, even for well-sourced articles >>>>>> with clear notability. >>>>>> 2. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Strict edit filters*, blocking the creation of even *user talk >>>>>> pages* or participation in discussions (because I had fewer than >>>>>> 100 edits). >>>>>> 3. >>>>>> >>>>>> *No clear, active editorial oversight* of incubated articles. >>>>>> Despite publishing a complete and code-formatted version with >>>>>> references, >>>>>> the article remained ignored. >>>>>> 4. >>>>>> >>>>>> *No reaction* from administrators or community members even after >>>>>> polite and formal requests in public help spaces (e.g. *Көмеу >>>>>> бөлімі*). >>>>>> >>>>>> This discouraging experience is not just personal. It reflects a >>>>>> broader systemic issue within Kazakh Wikipedia that may explain why its >>>>>> growth has stalled around 260,000 articles — despite the global success >>>>>> of >>>>>> the Wikipedia movement. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe the following steps would help address the issue: >>>>>> >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Loosen edit filters for new users submitting incubator articles >>>>>> with reliable sources. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Allow new users to post on talk pages and request help directly. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Appoint 1–2 more active administrators to review incubator >>>>>> submissions regularly. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Create guidance pages for new contributors in both Kazakh and >>>>>> Russian. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sharing this not as criticism but as support for the Wikimedia >>>>>> mission. I believe every language community should be open to >>>>>> high-quality >>>>>> contributions — especially from experts and educators — and this openness >>>>>> must be backed by a welcoming infrastructure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your attention, >>>>>> *Dr. Andreas Buller* >>>>>> [[User:AndreasBuller]] on kk.wikipedia >>>>>> [[User:Andreas Buller]] on ru.wikipedia >>>>>> Email available upon request >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Andreas Buller >>>>>> *Philosophy teacher* >>>>>> https://andreasbuller.wixsite.com/andre?lang=de >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>>>> guidelines at: >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>>>> Public archives at >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/TEJQDKFAO2EMFXM56WUFAZEHACM7VLHZ/ >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>>> guidelines at: >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>>> Public archives at >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/P26QSY2UWMJCHK5E7JVULM2I2PV4LWAC/ >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/KOZDCFQQUH4QO74BYI6VXMFRFTAPYM2B/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> James Heilman >>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/3C6SDSZKGO6THVGGS5Y3XVA2E3X4PMRU/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/LM3CZWI3OAENRJBTPQQ74GZUOBWWIZYA/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/TABH7ECQYTWZ5374TQWQVU34YWHLG625/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
_______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/KJZJ7OUNUWNSIHINEQZVA6GNF6CHTPFC/ To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
