I wonder why so much aggression here? Diptanshu has a point - even if "ignorant" is perhaps not the best word, the majority of internet users are, in all probability, unaware of Wikipedia policies and editing traditions. Moreover, we all know perfectly well that as IP users, they have virtually nil chances that they edits, whatever they were, to controversial articles would not be instantly reverted by one or other warring party. The very fact that such petitions are made and garner support shows that we *do* face at the very least a communication problem with regards to editing.
As to whether homeopathy is a quack science or not, it is not for us Wikipedians to decide - we only have a duty to faithfully and proportionately present all the major points of view, appropriately sourced, in a way as impartial as it gets. Best, On 20 September 2017 at 10:49, Sean Jones <se...@losmasos.com> wrote: > Whether “Homeopathy lacks such a scientific approach” is a matter of your > personal opinion and others might not agree with the writer’s attempt to > define what consists of science and what consists of pseudoscience. Just > words. To say “the common man is relatively ignorant” also betrays > arrogance on the part of the writer. I always consider myself a common man, > does this make me relatively ignorant? No, it makes you relatively > ignorant. Thanks very much. > > > > *From:* Wikimedia-Medicine [mailto:wikimedia-medicine- > boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Diptanshu Das > *Sent:* 20 September 2017 11:23 > > *To:* Wiki Medicine discussion > *Subject:* Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia > article on Homeopathy > > > > I have posted an comment at https://www.change.org/p/ > wikipedia-changing-wikipedia-s-article-on-homoeopathy/c/694128613 > > > > An update has been posted in a parallel thread. However, we need to know > that we might be aware of the Wikipedia issues but the 'common man' is > relatively ignorant. Irrespective of whether this man is taking sense, this > petition has garnered 4000 signatures and evidently those supporters too > are oblivious of how to edit Wikipedia. This increases our responsibility. > > > > Just bear that in mind. > > > > Pseudoscience is not about whether it works or not, it is about a > scientific approach to gathering evidences which may or may not suggest > that 'it works'. Homeopathy lacks such a scientific approach. The > supporters of this petition are therefore likely to be unaware of the > scientific approach. Like on Wikipedia, the onus of change lies on us. > > > > Regards > > Diptanshu > > > > > Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > > > On 20 September 2017 at 14:45, Cristian PSG <cristianps...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > The so-called petition is a nonsense. The so-called discussion "raised" > around this subject is pointless. Read the Wikipedia politics. Period. > > > > > > Regards, > > Cristian > > > > > > On 20 Sep 2017 11:55 am, "Diptanshu Das" <das.diptan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am not the petitioner. The petitioner is not present in is group and > therefore cannot read the discussions here. The petitioner possibly does > not even know how to read or participate in discussions related to pages or > topics. It is futile to discuss among ourselves. Would somebody like to > reach out to the petitioner with the information contained in this > discussion thread? > > > > > Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > > > On 20 September 2017 at 13:48, Sean Jones <se...@losmasos.com> wrote: > > Ha ha. The issue is not having a petition to force anyone to do anything, > but presenting our views on Wikipedia to counter the views of homeopathy’s > critics. It is an open source of debate. If you have an issue about the law > of gravity you are welcome to compose an article on it and post it to > Wikipedia. I am sure there is someone who has posted an article about > Flat-earthers already, either for or against. All ideas are welcome – it is > an encyclopedia written for the people by the people, and hopefully written > by people who know what they are talking about on their particular subject. > All views are welcome, provided that they are cited from reliable and > authentic published sources. So those who want to challenge what they > consider the wrong views of those who have posted their persona (or > official) views denigrating Homeopathy are now required to simply log in to > Wikipedia and present their refutation of those wrong views, based on > irrefutable citations from published sources. That’s all you need to do, so > just get on with it instead of mumbling amongst yourselves about how unfair > it is and organising a petition to an authority that does not exist. > > > > *From:* Wikimedia-Medicine [mailto:wikimedia-medicine- > boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Peter Southwood > *Sent:* 20 September 2017 00:11 > *To:* 'Wiki Medicine discussion' > *Subject:* Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia > article on Homeopathy > > > > Maybe next they will have a petition to repeal the law of gravity > > Cheers, > > P > > > > *From:* Wikimedia-Medicine [mailto:wikimedia-medicine- > boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Diptanshu Das > *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 September 2017 7:16 PM > *To:* Wiki Medicine discussion; wjmboard > *Subject:* [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article > on Homeopathy > > > > I would like to bring your attention to the petition > > https://www.change.org/p/wikipedia-changing-wikipedia- > s-article-on-homoeopathy > > > > Regards > > Diptanshu > > > > Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list > Wikimedia-Medicine@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list > Wikimedia-Medicine@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list > Wikimedia-Medicine@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list > Wikimedia-Medicine@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine > >
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