Hi Craig, Liam, Just reading through your comments and links.
Two thing stuck out. The first is Catherine's comment; "But I also know that this would be a significant change for cultural institutions and that without a ministerial directive, it won't happen across the sector any time soon". http://catherinestyles.com/2009/10/15/glam-wiki-recommendations/ The second is Kate Lundy's "this is the 'default position of the government'". This discussion is taking place in all publically funded institutions at present; not just GLAMs. The gov2 hackfest in Canberra last week was another step in this "chipping away at monoliths". Can I make the suggestion that it might be time to offer a petition. The committee down there is playing with trying to do this electronically, I can't see how this may be attempted without a Single Sign On for all Australian citizens. But that's almost there now. This might be good opportunity to get the first step into the online world for .gov.au institutions. At least we can encourage the .gov to put their policy where their mouth is. http://www.aph.gov.au/House/committee/petitions/index.htm regards, simonfj Wow Craig, this is great and the work you've been doing with the QM is really important outreach and local interaction. It's one think for the Wikimedia community to say "give us your photos" but you actually getting out there and building a personal relationship with the institution is incredibly valuable. Thank you! I would also like to point people to another recent post (more from the Library angle) about interacting with Wikipedia: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6703519.html There's also this personal response from the sector about the GLAM-WIKI recommendations: And I know that the National Library is working on a formal/institutional-level response to the recommendations too. All in all, there is a lot of work going on in the GLAM sector to find ways of working with Wikimedia! There'll be a few announcements along these lines in the near future and I know from talking with some European colleagues that our work in Australia is being looked at as the best-practice. So, Criag, keep up the good work and please tell us if you need any specific assistance. -Liam [[Witty lama]] VP Wikimedia Australia wittylama.com/blog Peace, love & metadata On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Craig Franklin <cr...@halo-17.net> wrote: > ?We certainly live in interesting (and rapidly changing) times. There is a > loud and significant clarion call from Commonwealth and State governments to > digitise collections to enable free public access to our cultural assets. As > Senator Kate Lundy stated in her address at the GLAM-Wiki conference in > Canberra in August, this is the 'default position of the government'. > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/attachments/20091029/caab 31e9/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:59:27 +1100 From: Angela <bees...@gmail.com> Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising To: Wikimedia-au <wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <8b722b800910291659y662e42e3v8535cdd6a906f...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take part? Angela ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:10:56 +1100 From: private musings <thepmacco...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising To: Wikimedia-au <wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <1e170f700910292110t7015e6e6x74efc5077c514...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" just a quick second on the offer to help - I think it's really quite important that we as a chapter are able to join the fundraising process - p'raps it's all underway, and we're all signed up but the list isn't up to date. If so, hopefully someone in the know can update, and if not, it'd be great to make this a pretty high priority :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Angela <bees...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters > are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the > funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason > Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything > to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take > part? > > Angela > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/attachments/20091030/4ebf c653/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:08:12 +1000 From: "Craig Franklin" <cr...@halo-17.net> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting Blog posts - provides an insight into the challenges that GLAM institutions might have in dealing with Commons (and other free media repositories) To: "'Wikimedia-au'" <wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <0c0301ca5a01$4c82d430$e5887c...@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Liam, Thanks for those links, I hadn't seen the blog post before. I think there's some excellent recommendations that we should consider closely in there, including the "customized training", (which is what I've been doing at QM), and developing a document to put somewhere (maybe on the chapter website) that goes over the advantages of allowing commercial use licensing on free content. On this second point there is some extant material on Commons and scattered about the rest of the place, but we could bring it all together and adapt it to the specific situation of Australian GLAM institutions (particularly if we can quote people like Cath on the page, if others are doing it, I hope that we can use peer pressure to get our way!). Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Liam Wyatt Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 6:47 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting Blog posts - provides an insight into the challenges that GLAM institutions might have in dealing with Commons (and other free media repositories) Wow Craig, this is great and the work you've been doing with the QM is really important outreach and local interaction. It's one think for the Wikimedia community to say "give us your photos" but you actually getting out there and building a personal relationship with the institution is incredibly valuable. Thank you! I would also like to point people to another recent post (more from the Library angle) about interacting with Wikipedia: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6703519.html There's also this personal response from the sector about the GLAM-WIKI recommendations: http://catherinestyles.com/2009/10/15/glam-wiki-recommendations/ And I know that the National Library is working on a formal/institutional-level response to the recommendations too. All in all, there is a lot of work going on in the GLAM sector to find ways of working with Wikimedia! There'll be a few announcements along these lines in the near future and I know from talking with some European colleagues that our work in Australia is being looked at as the best-practice. So, Criag, keep up the good work and please tell us if you need any specific assistance. -Liam [[Witty lama]] VP Wikimedia Australia wittylama.com/blog Peace, love & metadata On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Craig Franklin <cr...@halo-17.net> wrote: Hi All, Some interesting blog posts from David Milne, manager of Strategic Learning at the Queensland Museum. I have been working closely with David in trying to get access to some of QM's extensive collection of public domain photographs and other media, and I think this could be a useful little primer for anyone who is thinking of jumping in and doing the same with one of their local institutions: http://manexus.ning.com/profiles/blogs/back-at-reality-ranch-social "We certainly live in interesting (and rapidly changing) times. There is a loud and significant clarion call from Commonwealth and State governments to digitise collections to enable free public access to our cultural assets. As Senator Kate Lundy stated in her address at the GLAM-Wiki conference in Canberra in August, this is the 'default position of the government'. This implies the GLAM sector adopting a spirit of openness, sharing and connectedness. Other inducements to participate in an open access, communication revolution include: the Government 2.0 Taskforce initiative, the Government Information Licensing Framework (GILF) and the need to respond, in this state, to the Queensland 2020:Ideas to Action in order to facilitate 'universal access to our arts and cultural assets'. "Back at 'Reality Ranch' many GLAM sector institutions are contending with multiple challenges, not least of which are retaining staff during financially challenging times and maintaining traditional visiting audience numbers. Developing a policy for the use of social media (or helping to reduce your institution's carbon footprint) may be mere peripheral points on the strategic planning radar. Other contributory forces which contribute to a state of partial inertia (in terms of the adoption of social media and digitisation strategies) lay partly with curatorial staff and the IT staff responsible for internet security. There are naturally honourable exceptions to this generalisation; this observation is far from being a slight on their good work. However, curators and IT gurus have reasons for maintaining the 'status quo'; changing the role of curatorial expert to facilitator can be challenging for some (and anecdotally, liberating for others). Responding to public comments made after uploading digitised photographs of collections onto FLICKR or Wikimedia Commons is a tremendous form of social engagement for example, but this is thought to be time-consuming by sceptical staff. Raising the defensive internet screening barriers even higher is also an understandable response from people responsible for protecting the integrity of the data held on servers, which are subject to attack by a minority of the public with malevolent intent. "My personal view is that it is prudent to develop an understanding of the reasons why some GLAM sector institutions are not moving forward in embracing social media strategies at the pace advocates would like, and external government directives demand. There needs to be better understanding of institutional workplace culture and any arterial blockages to progress before a remedial stent is applied. Resolutions to 'clear the barricades' include the social media pioneers demonstrating to others in the GLAM sector the pathways they chose, illustrating how the views of sceptics were won over and internal incumbrances overcome. A large dollop of assertive leadership and having 'champions for the cause' in high places are essential. The benefits of engaging in opening up public access to collections and interacting with the public using various forms of social media has to be seen to outweigh the reasons for 'defending the fort'. To that end there are some great ideas being shared around on the CAN site and I hope, in time, through MANEXUS." David has also made an interesting post on Brianna's "Museums and Wikipedia" group at Ning (http://museum30.ning.com/group/museumswikimedia ): "Post GLAM-Wiki conference, a really helpful and positive relationship has been established between the Queensland Museum and a member of the Queensland Wikimedia community. Uploading a small sample of copyright free photographs from the museum's extensive collection onto Wiki Commons has been a slow process. This is not technically challenging, but ensuring that in-house policies and procedures are met requires considered thought. "I have written a blog over on MANEXUS which sheds some light on broader issues which the GLAM sector have to contend with in relation to the adoption of various forms of social media which may be of interest, particularly to the Wikimedia community." It has certainly been my experience so far that institutions are really eager and excited at the idea of sharing their material with us (and with the world at large), but that internal procedures and policies are to an extent hindering that goal. For instance, it has taken some weeks for QM to work out how they are going to reconcile their internal file naming policy with Commons' file naming policy. This list has been a bit quiet, so I figured I'd throw this out there for discussion and further comment! 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