Bom, para o povo da WMBR, antes de eu fazer uma carta pública como havia falado, tentei verificar o que estava havendo por emails, antes de fazer uma abertura, já que poderia ser apenas uma questão de falha na comunicação.
Eu enviei para o Bence um email, entretanto, pelo visto, ele enviou para Tomasz e ele resolveu abrir. Preferível assim. For AffCom We will respond all questions in Meta, including the article and I expect the same of you about the statement. Just to be clear the question that you make reference is that "I can't see the relation between such an organisation and a *distributed institutional design*." Because, we answer here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom#wmbrorganizationa lot of questions, with no feedbacks. Soo... let's move! On 25 February 2013 09:25, Tomasz W. Kozłowski <odder.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25 February 2013 11:28, Rodrigo wrote: > > > This http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Planned_chapters, > > continues with lies, we are waiting for your answers and we didn't make > any > > moves. > > First of all, let me mention that calling anything that's posted on > that page "a lie" is either an emotional overstatement or an example > of not assuming good faith. Seeing that the discussion between > Wikimedia Brasil and this Committee has already been quite an > emotional one--and this applies to the past Chapters Committee, too, > as far as I see--I would have hoped that your communication with us > wouldn't contain such allegations. > > To get to the point, however, I would welcome an explanation of what > part of "Incorporated without AffCom approval, against advice. Slowly > on-going conversation at Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom" is not true. > > > If you take longer than two weeks, we predict that we will not able to > > perform the WLM, which was a activities designed for this year, but we > need > > a government permission to conduct any contest in Brazil. > > The process of recognising a Wikimedia group as a chapter takes much > more than that; reviewing bylaws, putting a Commitee resolution to a > vote, and waiting for an official resolution from the Board of > Trustess would take at least about six weeks in a perfect world--and > seeing that the one we live in is /not/ perfect, I guess that there is > no chance to approve Wikimedia Brasil in two weeks. > > > As the process is not transparent, we do not know what are the questions > > that you still have, so please, if you have them, do not come into > contact > > with our volunteers individually, and ask the questions on Meta > > (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom) and we will > respond > > as soon as possible. > > As far as I see, there is at least one question that I asked on > October 9 that still has not received an answer from any of the > members of Wikimedia Brasil. Because it concerns the contents of your > bylaws versus the reality, I would very much like to see it answered. > > > Also, I want a formal and open statement from AffCom about this > assertion: > > "Incorporated without AffCom approval, against advice" > > I, on the other hand, want a formal and open statement from Wikimedia > Brasil about this article > <http://blogs.estadao.com.br/link/wikimedia-brasil-sera-fundada-amanha/>, > and especially the opening sentence: "Nesta sexta-feira, 12, > voluntários brasileiros da enciclopédia virtual Wikipédia vão > institucionalizar suas atividades e fundar a Wikimedia Brasil." as > well as a short overview of what happened between 16:00 and 18:00 on > October 12, 2012, during the WikiBrasil conference > <https://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiBrasil_2012>. > > It is my belief that letting us know about that would greatly enhance > the cooperation between Wikimedia Brasil and this Committee, and would > be a huge step in moving forward the recognition of your group as a > Wikimedia chapter. > > PS I am CC-ing both the Affiliations Commitee and Wikimedia Brasil's > mailing list to this e-mail for transparency's sake. When replying to > this message, please keep both parties in the CC, so we don't lose > track of things. Thank you. > > -- > Tomasz W. Kozłowski > a.k.a. [[user:odder]] > -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 979 718 884
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