That probably explains it. I was wondering how you could be so casual
about man power to deal with such an event. If you look at our indic
wikipedias, We wouldnt see many hands to do the heavy lifting. For
some reason, many Indian wikipedians can work in en wiki, but wont
really bother to work in their own language wikipedias :-)
Look at a few examples below:
*Active users*
*
*
*en wiki - 160,976*
hi wiki - 237
ml wiki - 186
ta wiki 185
mr wiki 105
bpy wiki - two digits
gu wiki - two digit
kn wiki -two digits
or wiki - single digit
sa wiki - 35
pali - in two digits. I cant read that.
bh wiki - single digit
Regards,
Jyothis.
http://www.Jyothis.net
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
lines to go before I press sleep
completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) /
resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
<rsrikant...@gmail.com <mailto:rsrikant...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My home wiki is enwiki, but I'm mostly busy on meta these days,
co-ordinating English-Hindi projects.
On 24 February 2010 17:47, Jyothis Edathoot <j...@jyothis.net
<mailto:j...@jyothis.net>> wrote:
Srikanth,
Which wiki is your home wiki?
Regards,
Jyothis.
http://www.Jyothis.net <http://www.jyothis.net/>
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
lines to go before I press sleep
completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x
3.1415926) / resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24))
+ Effort in meetings
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
<rsrikant...@gmail.com <mailto:rsrikant...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So we need to keep a patrol dedicated to watching these
guys.. But are they still doing it? I thought Google
stopped? Besides, they're like lightenening.. You never
know when or where they're gonna strike.. :D
On 24 February 2010 09:02, BalaSundaraRaman
<sundarbe...@yahoo.com <mailto:sundarbe...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
In Tamil wiki too we're extremely concerned about
quality. That's why even GaneshBot was constrained. On
this issue, we're keeping an open mind and it's still
in a pilot stage.
sundar from mobile
Jyothis Edathoot wrote:
> While we welcome the efforts and contributions, all
wikis may not be equipped with enuf active users to
handle such a flood. if a flood of low quality
articles or translations come by, such projects may
take (much) longer to recover and regain the drop of
quality. While quantity benefits out of such a flood,
that may end up compromising the quality of the wiki.
It may not always in th interest of the local
community. Regards, Jyothis. Sent from my iPhone On
Feb 23, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
rsrikant...@gmail.com <mailto:rsrikant...@gmail.com> >
wrote: Shiju,
> Can't we just go ahead normally? If these Google
guys make mistakes, we just correct them and go on. If
they resist, then explain or warn them?
> Regards,
> On 23 February 2010 21:08, Shiju Alex <
shijualexonl...@gmail.com
<mailto:shijualexonl...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> There should be proper co-ordination between each
language community and the Google. In Malayalam
Wikipedia, we already tried collaborative translation
of some English Wiki articles 2 years back. But that
was a failure and we dropped that. One of the main
issue with word-to-word translation is that the entire
article will have the sentences constructed with
artificial words and phrases. The reader will run away
from that type of articles.
> If there is no proper agreement between wiki
community and Google the community may resist. For the
sake of Google translation, Wikis should not not be
flooded with articles. Some wikis might be interested
in using this service to increase the article count.
But not all communities will agree to that.
> The problem of paid translation and word-to-word
translation are many. Each language community might
have different issues regarding word-to-word
translation/paid translation. Each of them need to be
addressed separately.
> So it is very important that Google agrees to the
point mentioned in the below mail, and there should be
proper communication between Google and respective
language communities. Shiju
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Ravi shankar <
ravidreams...@yahoo.com
<mailto:ravidreams...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
> Hi all, regarding the mail below: Sundar and I have
initiated contacts with Google on coordinating their
article contributions.
> Google has agreed in principle for the demands
below. We hope we can update all Indian Wikis about
the progress in this collaboration, say in a month or
two. Then it may be a good model for all Indian Wikis
to follow. So, it may be a good idea for all Indian
Wikis to wait during this period so Google need not
have to do the same consensus evolving approach with
many wikis.
> Thanks, ravi
>
>
> From: Ravi shankar < ravidreams...@yahoo.com
<mailto:ravidreams...@yahoo.com> > To:
wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 11:30:27 AM Subject:
Coordinating Google translation kit articles
> Hi all, Following the recent Wiki meet in
Bangalore, Sundar (Tamil Wikipedian) brought to our
notice that Google is contributing to various Indian
language Wikis using Google translation kit and paid
translators. In Tamil Wiki, we feel a strong need to
corordinate / organize this activity andwe hope it is
the same situation in many Indian language wikis.
> So, may I propose that we discuss this in this
mailing list and send a common notification from
Indian language wikis to Google India? To begin with I
propose the following. Please add to the list. 1.
Google should appoint one coordinator each for every
Indian language wiki where they contribute articles.
This coordinator should be available to reach by mail
and be adequately responsive (Say, once a week at
least). He will take feedback from the wiki community
and pass it to the paid contributors.
> 2. If Googe policy allows, they should know us the
time frame and scale of this operation so we can plan
accordingly. 3. Google should not translate existing
articles because they are over riding previous
contributions.
> 4. Each Wiki can submit a list of needed articles
and the translators can consider giving priority from
them. 5. Each Wiki can draft an essential Manual of
Style which the translators shall follow. 6. Based on
the responses for above, we shall periodically
re-evaluate how we can continue to cooperate with Google.
> After we finalise the list , some one of us who has
links with Google India team can take this forward.
Thanks, Ravi (Tamil Wiki)
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