He's free to monitor them. What is important is how the community develops a consensus about the said matter.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Konarak Ratnakar <konarak...@live.com>wrote: > What if he's monitoring all India related lists and the related > discussions? > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:33 -0800 > From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione > > IT is sad, but true about what happened to Nicholas. While the edits by > WifiOne are clearly CoI based, for now I choose to disconnect the user from > Nichalp in my POV. > Nicholas was the ideal Role model for us back in 2007-8-9. He churned out > articles of good quality like no one. > It was indeed sad that he had to resort to what he did. > It proves that a man is remembered more for what evil deeds he does and > not what good he does. > Few people would know that Nichalp was the original uploader of Indian > maps on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons. > > As for the IIPM related edits, yes, not just WifiOne, but another editor, > who replied to the Talk page of the 'Management Guru', seem to be doing > what it takes from keeping others from editing that article. > Said user believes that I, or User:Utcursh shouldn't edit the article AS: > i] I tweeted negatively about IIPM. > ii] Utcursh is from another Business School an thus has a CoI. > This resulted in MikeLynch taking a neutral stand on the talk page which > resulted in the said user voting against in Mike's RfA, [and again, blaming > it ON me!] > > I think we need a special talk about this IIPM matter on the English > mailing list. > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:20 AM, <wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Wifione commented on this > discussion<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3aArindam_Chaudhuri#New_section>. > He redacted some comments there, a few hours later, with this > edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:No_original_research&action=historysubmit&diff=475525747&oldid=475410422>on > WP:No Original Research - he changed "trial" to "trial/litigation > in any country" and "published by any involved party" to "published > /authored by any involved party" and also changed Book Reviews from being > considered a secondary source to being considered a primary source. Its > interesting to note that the changes he made in policy relate somewhat to > the discussion taking place on an article talk page where he was involved. > > Also, the following statements: > > "Please provide valid sources to support this statement. MSN is not a > reliable source." - Wifione 06:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC) (this > discussion<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3aIndian_Institute_of_Management_Lucknow#Reliable_sources> > ) > > The MSN > article<http://education.in.msn.com/features/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5071129&page=2>is > actually an article by IANS (an independent News Agency), carried by MSN > and others like Yahoo > News<http://my.news.yahoo.com/fight-corruption-iim-lucknow-graduating-students-told-20110322-101343-289.html>. > > > A comment about the same Yahoo News article: ".. Yahoo link simply shows > the opinion of Mr. Devi Singh from IIM Lucknow. That is a self-published > statement which should not be used to make a definitive statement." - > Wifione 19:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC) (Same discussion) > > Im not commenting on the contents of the original email, the above > definitely looks a bit out of order to me. > > > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:37:01 +1100 > > From: jay...@gmail.com > > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > CC: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione > > > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham > > <tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Unbelievable but Shocking ! > > > > > > I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ... > > > > So far the evidence is not good. > > > > > but a look at the edit history > > > of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the > interests > > > of IIPM and its stakeholders. > > > > > > He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research&action=historysubmit&diff=475525747&oldid=475410422<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:No_original_research&action=historysubmit&diff=475525747&oldid=475410422> > > > > It looks like he re-arranged the policy a lot in that edit, but there > > arnt many changes. > > > > "trial" became "trial/litigation in any country" > > > > and he added "independent" a few times. > > > > "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable > > secondary source for that interpretation." > > > > "Any interpretation of primary source material requires reliable, > > independent secondary sources for that interpretation." > > > > "'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material > > found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable > > secondary sources that do so." > > > > '''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material > > found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable, > > independent secondary sources that do so." > > > > "Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources. > > Articles may make analytic or evaluative claims only if these have > > been published by a reliable secondary source." > > > > "Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary > > sources. Articles ''may'' make an analytic or evaluative claim ''only > > if'' that has been published by ''multiple'' independent, reliable > > secondary sources." > > > > > Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM) > articles > > > as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_University&action=historysubmit&diff=475405890&oldid=474606800 > > > > > > Nevertheless , this has be investigated or possibly reported to Arb > Com. > > > > I've alerted Arbcom as a courtesy, however a community assessment is > > needed in order to determine if there is any credible link to nichalp > > or any reason for a desysop. > > > > -- > > John Vandenberg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > > > -- > Regards, > Srikanth Ramakrishnan. > Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore > Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG > > > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing > list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / > change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. 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