Hi, I never mentioned anything about being part of the chapter. The chapter was set up to promote the movement in India and it has done so even in cases where a person/participant was NOT a part of the chapter.. I merely asked what benefit the Group recieves by taking the User Group route over the Chapter SIG route.
Harsh, What are your thoughts on the Chapter-SIG model. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > The same question could be asked of any collective with a Wikipedia > related goal. However, it could also be asked if in the Wikiverse (which > supremely thrives on the value of collaborative work), it is inappropriate > or redundant to form new collaboratives (like MediaWiki group or other > specific focus groups) that are outside the purview of chapters or the > Foundation for that matter. My hunch is that the formation of such any > formal/informal group of this nature is welcome as long as it does not > enter into trademark conflicts with existing entities. However, it beats me > why there would be a need to consolidate a new collective within a chapter > if there is no apparent need indicated by the group itself. > > I am just wondering whether the ideal approach would be to propose the > nature of support that the chapter can extend in stead of wondering why the > group has not been merged or started by/within chapter members. This would > probably also mislead enthusiastic Indian Wikipedians who are not chapter > members to understand that they must streamline all their activities with > existing formal entities. > > Best, > Noopur > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote: > >> Noopur, >> Thank you for your response, >> However, you still haven't answered my question on what benefit a User >> Group has over Chapter SIG. >> The Chapter was set up to help promote and streamline Wikimedia related >> activities in India. >> We have been asked by affcom and your response would greatly help us >> understand why direct affiliation is really necessary. >> It is more important to see what the long term benefits of this would be >> rather than to just create it because the option exists. >> -- >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Srikanth, >>> >>> Just weighing in since I also happen to be supporting this process. >>> Perhaps a little background is necessary to know why MediaWiki groups have >>> been started as an initiative. Also copying Quim since he might be able to >>> shed more light on this issue. As I understand from the proposal page, this >>> is a part of the new direction taken by the Foundation since the "narrowed >>> focus..." It was suggested that more impetus be given to help build and >>> support technical volunteer groups just like all cities and countries have >>> their Wikipedia, Commons and other communities of interested volunteers. >>> I am also witness to an IRC conversation where possibilities of setting >>> up local groups versus national were considered. As the highlighted in the >>> discussion, I believe that it would be best for volunteers to work in local >>> proximal groups (like MediaWiki group - Ahmedabad for instance) also with a >>> language focus possibly (like several gadgets have been added to Gujarati >>> Wikipedia as a run up to the group and so on). I believe the MediaWiki >>> India mailing list which hopes to link up communities across the country is >>> up and running now. As far as I understand forming specific interest groups >>> doesn't require a formal identity or does not encroach upon other parallel >>> entities' activities or privileges. >>> >>> Just trying to fill the gaps since you might not have the background on >>> MediaWiki groups conversations. Maybe Quim can correct me if I a mistaken. >>> >>> Best, >>> Noopur >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>> srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Harsh, >>>> I have a few questions. >>>> Was there any specific reason to go for a Separate MW Group? Is it due >>>> to legal/trademark issues or funding? >>>> I'm sure that those two could be sorted if it were taken up by the >>>> Chapter similar to an SIG model. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Harsh Kothari < >>>> harshkothari...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Dear friends, >>>>> >>>>> This is to inform you all about the creation of the first MediaWiki >>>>> group in India. For the past several days, I’ve been speaking to Quim Gil, >>>>> Sumana and Yuvi Panda. I was informed about the setting up of local groups >>>>> in different countries for technical contributors. With encouragement from >>>>> all of them and with help from Noopur I submitted a proposal for the >>>>> formation of MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad. This proposal has been endorsed by >>>>> 7 people so far. >>>>> >>>>> For those who might be interested in setting up similar groups, I >>>>> think a Wikitech mailing list for India is being set up and personally, I >>>>> would be happy to help you write a proposal for your community. I think >>>>> it’s a great idea because with the help of this technical group we intend >>>>> to make good technical infrastructure and editing environment for Gujarati >>>>> Wikipedia easier to contribute to. >>>>> >>>>> I have already ported HotCat and Popups(on the way) on Gujarati >>>>> Wikipedia. Please have a look at the areas we want to collaborate on: >>>>> >>>>> Areas of collaboration: >>>>> >>>>> - Localize Gadgets for Gujarati Wikipedia and Wikisource >>>>> - Create New Gadgets and extensions >>>>> - Bug solving for Gujarati Wikipedia and WikiSource and also other >>>>> MediaWiki related Bug solving for all Indian languages >>>>> - Translate into Gujarati Language, i.e http://translatewiki.net/ >>>>> - Wikidata >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You can read the proposal here: >>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Ahmedabad >>>>> >>>>> Your endorsements, improvements and feedback are welcome at the wiki >>>>> page. Thank you! >>>>> >>>>> Harsh Kothari >>>>> >>>>> PS: see also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> --- >>>>> Harsh Kothari >>>>> Research Fellow, >>>>> Physical Research Laboratory(PRL). >>>>> Ahmedabad. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan >>>> Member of the Executive Committee >>>> Wikimedia Chapter [India] >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Noopur Raval >>> Student >>> Arts and Aesthetics >>> Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi >>> Ph: 9650567690 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Srikanth Ramakrishnan >> Member of the Executive Committee >> Wikimedia Chapter [India] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > > -- > Noopur Raval > Student > Arts and Aesthetics > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > Ph: 9650567690 > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India]
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