Dear Tejaswini and Friends, It is an interesting and pertinent issue. I do completely concur with Tejaswini on the problem of 'using philological classifications and terminology'. However, it will be interesting to track the history of how we have ended up with the term 'Indic', in the computing context. Do friends on the list know of any history of computing terms and how 'Indic' has come to be used?
Would be useful if any body can shed light on this and let us also put this up on Wikipedia. The Wiktionary entry for 'Indic' is here https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Indic Look forward to more conversations on this. Regards, Vishnu On 14 February 2013 09:34, Tejaswini Niranjana <t...@cscs.res.in> wrote: > Correction: by Dravidian language in Pakistan I suppose you meant Brahui, > which has a couple of million speakers. Doesn't appear to be much writing > in the language though. We will have to find out more. > > And one more comment on your suggestion about using 'Indic-Dravidian': do > remember that we have several languages in the north-east which are part of > neither of these groupings, since they are from the Tibeto-Burman family of > languages! This is what I meant by the problem of using philological > classifications and terminology. > > TN > > On 13 February 2013 18:38, Tejaswini Niranjana <t...@cscs.res.in> wrote: > >> Hi Niraj, >> Thanks for engaging with this difficult question. I think we may have to >> look at sizeable populations speaking a certain language while deciding how >> to classify where it is spoken. I was surprised to see your remark that >> Dravidian languages are spoken in Pakistan. I was not aware of this fact, >> and would like to know if it is the odd speaker who happens to live or work >> there, or there are good-sized populations speaking Kannada or Telugu for >> example. >> >> As for your suggestion about a combination name like Indic-Dravidian, >> that still falls into the philological problems that using 'Indic' alone >> does,and doesn't necessarily make the term more inclusive. >> >> So I think we will have to keep discussing this issue for some more time! >> >> Tejaswini >> >> >> On 11 February 2013 13:59, Niraj Suryawanshi <niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Dear Mam, >>> >>> I understand & appreciate the depth of thought process and inputs put >>> behind >>> this question about use of words "*Indian*" or "*Indic*". I'm very much >>> convinced since all the languages we are considering belong to different >>> classes and categories, geographically and origin wise too, and needs to >>> be >>> labeled under a common name! >>> >>> But if we consider the label Indian languages, which specifies the origin >>> and use of the same in India, there are many languages which are >>> predominantly used not only in India but also in the other surrounding >>> counties eg. Bangla (Indic Language, Indo-Aryan) which is used in India, >>> Bangladesh & Burma. >>> And many other Dravidian Languages which are thought to be specifically >>> South Indian languages are used in neighboring eastern countries like >>> Pakistan too. >>> >>> This question will arise every time when we have to specify "Indian >>> Language" or "Indic Languages" for any given reason. >>> >>> How about the combination of names of both different language families so >>> that the language set wont be distributed with respect to the current >>> territorial boundaries but with regards to their origin and a proper >>> classification depending upon the origin/birth. viz "*Indic - Dravidian >>> Languages*" >>> >>> This was my personal view over the query, you can always correct me if >>> I'm >>> misleading. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Regards & Thanks, >>> >>> Niraj Suryawanshi >>> on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune >>> +91 814 992 0120 | niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Indian-Languages-question-tp4996015p4996021.html >>> Sent from the WikiMedia India mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD >> Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications >> (HEIRA) >> Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS) >> Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) >> Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute >> of Science (CCS-IISc) >> >> t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268 >> >> f: 91-80-26730722 >> http://heira.in >> www.cscs.res.in >> > > > > -- > Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD > Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications > (HEIRA) > Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS) > Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) > Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute > of Science (CCS-IISc) > > t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268 > f: 91-80-26730722 > http://heira.in > www.cscs.res.in > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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