Hello Asaf Bartov,
Thank you for sharing the details of the individuals managing the mailing list.
I am writing to understand why my recent email submission to the list was
rejected. Could you please clarify the reason for this decision? Additionally,
I would appreciate knowing whether the individual or group involved in
moderating or rejecting the message has any direct connection to the topics
discussed in my email.
I also reached out to the list owner via the provided contact email but have
not yet received a response.
Lastly, could you clarify what is meant by the note “[No reason given]” in the
rejection notice? Does this indicate that no specific justification was
recorded, or is there another explanation?
Pankaj
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What does it mean by "[No reason given]" for rejecting the email? On Sunday,
April 5th, 2026 at 9:31 AM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote: > Your request to the
[email protected] mailing list > > Posting of your message
titled "Re: Why Was Nepal Denied While Overlapping Grants Were Approved in
India?" > > has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the >
following reason for rejecting your request: > > "[No reason given]" > > Any
questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator > at: > >
[email protected] >
On Saturday, May 2nd, 2026 at 7:18 AM, Asaf Bartov via WikimediaIndia-l
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello, Arvind.
>
> The list is moderated by seven volunteers, only two of whom (yours truly and
> Satdeep Gill) happen to also work for the Wikimedia Foundation. I moderate
> this list as a volunteer, not as part of my duties at the Foundation, having
> stepped up to help at a time when the other moderators at the time (H. P.
> Nadig of the English and Kannada communities and Anirudh S. Bhati of the
> English community) all became inactive.
>
> I contacted Anirudh when I noticed the moderation queue was not being handled
> in a timely manner, and offered to help. Anirudh graciously accepted my help,
> and explained he became very busy at work. After taking care of the queue, I
> set about (with Anirudh's blessing) recruiting additional volunteer
> moderators, as I am aware my being a member of the Foundation staff can
> create the appearance of Foundation influence on this list, but also because
> it is of course good governance for this community mailing list to be
> governed by community members from India, which I am not.
>
> I had recruited two veteran and trusted volunteers (and whose identities are
> public) Chinmayee Mishra (of the Odia community) and Abhay S. Natu (of the
> Marathi community), as well as Satdeep Gill (of the Punjabi community, who is
> also working for the Foundation but moderating as a volunteer) to help
> moderate the list, and myself took a step back. Anirudh and Hari remain
> moderators and can step back into activity at any time.
>
> For the low volume in this list, I think this number and composition of
> admins is enough. If the need arises to appoint additional moderators, I am
> confident the list community can say so, and the existing Indian moderators
> can appoint additional ones.
>
> If there is reason to suspect the list moderators are not doing their job
> properly, folks can bring it up on the list, with evidence supporting their
> allegations, and it can be discussed. If folks are *prevented* from bringing
> it up on this list (which, in my experience, has been quite tolerant of [even
> wild and baseless] allegations and did not practice censorship preventing
> people from bringing up issues, while it does prevent people from kidnapping
> the list with endless repetitions of allegations already shown to be
> baseless), they can contact the Wikimedia Foundation's Trust and Safety team
> at [email protected] and demonstrate their case.
>
> This is a community list, meant to be for and by members of the Indian
> Wikimedia communities. As such, the Foundation seeks no special influence on
> it, and would only intervene in case of technical need (like the
> aforementioned period of extended inactivity of all moderators, which was
> hindering discussion on the list), or catastrophic failure of the existing
> moderators (which hasn't happened yet, but theoretically could, as described
> in the previous paragraph).
>
> I hope that satisfies your curiosity, Arvind. If it does, perhaps you would
> reciprocate by satisfying Soni's curiosity about your own contributions to
> Wikimedia, because for someone interested in transparency you sure haven't
> demonstrated any so far.
>
> A.
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Lead Program Officer, Emerging Communities
>
> Community Development
>
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> On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 12:24 PM Arvind Menon via WikimediaIndia-l
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Who is controlling this Mailing List? The Mailing List Admins are people
>> from WMF? Is it true for now? Earlier volunteers are no more.
>>
>> If WMF is controlling then kindly step down and let the community take care.
>>
>> Arvind
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