Maybe it will be a good time we copied our Lawyer ( Abbas's namesake : :-) ) for advise?
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:11 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaus...@gmail.com>wrote: > Hello! > > Yes, *right to access* is enshrined in the Kenyan constitution. What of > how you use the material/information that you gained access to? > > For instance, photographs of Mzee Jomo Kenyatta while he was in young etc. > Yes we can access the photograph but are we allowed to use it in any way we > wish (*freely*) and for that matter upload it to commons where we will no > longer have control of what and where it will be used for illustrations or > any other purpose. > > IMO, We need to know about copyright expiry of some of these works > according to the laws of Kenya, and the authors desired ways of attribution > if any to ensure we do not step on anyone’s toes. > > I would be interested to know whether there is a clause or chapter in our > constitution that addresses the issue of intellectual property since it is > the supreme law of Kenya. > > PS: Anyone with a soft copy can as well forward the same. > > //Stephen > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote: > >> I usually use the Kenyan Constitution (Article 35 in the Bill of >> Rights) to argue my standpoint: >> >> "...every citizen has the right to access to information held by the >> state or any information that is held by another person and that is >> required for the exercise or protection of any right or fundamental >> freedom." >> >> --Abbas. >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:46:49 +0300 >> >> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya National Archives and other GLAM >> projects >> >> Hello Wikimedians! >> >> As the talks and discussions for partnerships fair on, we also need to be >> preparing in the background some tools that will be handy during the >> collaborations with the institutions in question. >> >> Such tools include but not limited to; Wikimedia commons KE licence >> templates, Customized barnster awards for members who contribute to >> WP:KENYA etc. >> >> From my English understanding of the Kenya copyrights act , (since I >> ain't no lawyer: ) I understand that the copyright act of Kenya has some >> special provisions for local works of art and photography. You can get a >> copy of the copyright act at [1]. >> >> Please Note: Am not a lawyer and I have no legal background locally and >> internationally and thereforeany advise that I give should not be taken as >> any form of legal advise. >> >> Have a good day. >> >> regards >> //Stephen >> >> 1. http://www.copyright.go.ke/rough/copyright_act.pdf >> >> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Iolanda Pensa <iola...@pensa.it> wrote: >> >> dear all >> to involve institutions I think a good strategy is - as Stephen suggests >> - to start. Below some hints related to my experience with GLAMs within >> Share Your Knowledge and WikiAfrica projects. >> all the best >> iolanda >> >> 1. if it can be useful we just made two short videos about GLAMs, >> Creative Commons and Wikipedia (in English, the voice was recorded in south >> africa by the Africa Centre and one of them is the voice of Francis Awinda >> - wikipedian in residence at the Africa Centre from Kenya). >> * Share Your Knowledge WHY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPWc18LswRM >> * Share Your Knowledge HOW - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpYmtRmPdUc >> you find the videos also on Wikimedia Commons [1] >> >> 2. it can be productive to focus on specific contents. for example you >> can ask a publisher to release with the open license cc by-sa only the >> biography of their authors and their book description; for an archive the >> story of the institutions (often already on their website); for an NGOs >> some of their promotional publications. those are contents institutions >> wish to share and they have less troubles in sharing. once they get started >> is easier to get more because they see how their contents are used. >> >> 3. Public archives and museums are often the most difficult institutions >> to involve in contributing to Wikipedia because - also if they understand - >> they do not know who can take the decision. Often they also require a >> formal agreement (which makes the collaboration even longer). it can be >> useful to target also NGOs, foundations and other private institutions, to >> get started and to be able to then tell the public sector "hey, THEY are >> already doing it". >> >> [1] On Wikimedia Commons - Share Your Knowledge video 1 WHY (with final >> link to glamwiki.org) >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Share_Your_Knowledge_1_Why_glamwiki.ogv >> On Wikimedia Commons - Share Your Knowledge video 2 HOW (with final link >> to glamwiki.org) >> http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Share_Your_Knowledge_2_How_glamwiki.ogv >> >> Il giorno 18/giu/2012, alle ore 06:20, Stephen Wanjau ha scritto: >> >> Hello Folks! >> >> I have been physically following up on the subject of this email >> (together with Abbas and Alex) for sometime now and it seems the logistics >> and the speed with which these institutions are planning this are so slow >> that I feel I cant wait any longer. Those of you who have worked in the >> Kenyan government or for the Kenyan government definitely understand my >> concerns regarding the periods that they would take to decide on such a >> simple thing on what to do - probably call an AGM of the stakeholders. >> >> In most of the cases, these guys do not understand the online stuff or >> even how the internet works let alone Wikipedia (which is our work anyway). >> At the end they will come to appreciate that it is a good thing - which it >> is always is.There was a time when we visited the Kenya Railways museum and >> the curator there was always confusing their institutional website with >> Wikipedia. He thought Wikipedians job is to improve organizational >> websites! we clarified and made it clear about this and on the next meeting >> he was at it again! >> >> On our meeting with another directorate of the National Museums of Kenya, >> he asked whether he could find Wikipedia on Google search. the exact >> conversation was as below. >> >> *Alex*: Hello, My name is Alex and am here with my colleague Steve and >> we work at Wikipedia. Wikipedia is ...blah blah blah.... >> >> *Museum directorate*: Do you mean if I search Wikipedia on Google I >> will find it? (Was just hilarious:) >> >> >> Personally, I have not spoken to Kenya Archives about GLAM (though Abbas >> did). But I think we should just go ahead and organize editathons at this >> premises and this is why. >> >> On Sunday 17th 2012 I was to meet with a friend in town who was running >> late and so I decided to part with 50 Kenyan shillings ($0.5) and enter the >> premise (Kenya National Archives) just to see what it holds. Plus I did not >> want to stand along the streets or sit on the benches due to the frequent >> IED attacks in Nairobi. It is rich in artifacts and even books about >> history of Kenya, royal visits to Kenya, Kenyatta's famous chair and to >> crown it all they have a library with articles about all these treasures. >> The receptionist in fact encouraged me to take photos with a camera even >> before I asked for permission. She even encouraged me to become a member of >> their library and I only needed to part with 200 KES for a year as >> subscription to access the material plus the artifacts of course. >> >> My question is, can't we pay for this subscription and start using the >> library to write articles about Kenya now that they have offline references >> there? Probably on Weekends or even weekdays depending on the time one is >> free. I think the chapter can cushion the subscriptions if that would >> hinder any Wikipedian from accessing the facility. The internet shall >> definitely be provided. >> >> Kenya is still dark and still in the dark continent. Can't we illuminate >> it with some light......? >> >> My thoughts. >> >> //Stephen >> -- >> Wikimedia Kenya >> Board Member & Treasurer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Wikimedia Kenya. >> "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in >> the sum of all knowledge." 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