So we need a lead person or project. Anything that (in time) would have a broader effect than a single evening course would I believe get a good hearing for seed funding/ support
Anyone? Roger B On 3 June 2011 14:48, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > My Mum is active in her local branch of the University of the third > age, they struck me as a perfect partner for such an evening course. > Especially if the UK chapter were to offer the U3A a grant for hiring > in approved Wikipedians to deliver said course. > > But please call it something other than "creating your own wiki page". > Aside from winding up the deletionists, that risks letting people > think they own a page, or that they can create a page about them. Your > hobby/profession/neighbourhood and Wikipedia would be OK, someone else > will I hope come up with something snazzier. > > But this definitely has legs. > > We could also make use of a photographers version to explain commons > to local photography clubs. > > WereSpielChequers > > On 1 June 2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin <victuall...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed how we could put > together > > a teaching plan so that someone like yourself could organise an enevening > > course in "creating your own wiki page" ... not sure whether Martin made > any > > progress. I know he was investigating ... I suspect there are a lot of > > people who would like to put their local history work into Wikipedia ... > if > > we just explained it and demo ed it at the same time. > > > > Other thread. I teach secondary ICT. I'm planning to teach intro to Wiki > > editting next week. I have still to find some resources. Any help > > appreciated. > > > > regards > > Roger B > > > > On 1 June 2011 17:34, Alex Stinson <stins...@dukes.jmu.edu> wrote: > >> > >> There is an education list > >> at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which appears > to > >> be one of the better ways to contact people because not everyone > regularly > >> checks outreach wiki (including myself). I invite people to join who > want to > >> work with Education and Wikimedia projects, it include a fair number of > >> Campus Ambassadors who are doing innovative stuff at universities as > well as > >> a number of other people in various chapters involved in education > stuffs, > >> Alex > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Thomas Morton > >> <morton.tho...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Alex, > >>> Yes a lot of that has been my starting point. FWIW there is a lack of > >>> content for the younger age groups (say 14-16) which is where my > current > >>> focus is; the "beginner" guides are more suited (at least in my > experience > >>> of teaching) to older students. I'd also like to see some more material > on > >>> the goals/ideals of Wikipedia (as that seems a better start point > before > >>> leaping into account creation :)). > >>> > >>> Also I noticed that a lot of the focus is on editing or contributing > >>> Wikipedia. I've approached this from a slightly different perspective - > >>> which is that most of the kids I will be talking to aren't interested > in > >>> writing (and probably aren't yet capable of doing so) a Wikipedia > article. > >>> On the other hand I aim to teach them about using WP as a resource (and > the > >>> potential pitfalls) as well as trying to get them to treat it with > respect > >>> (i.e. quit the vandalism). > >>> Is there a place on Outreach where discussion of education/teaching > >>> materials is happening? > >>> Tom > >>> On 1 June 2011 17:15, Alex Stinson <stins...@dukes.jmu.edu> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> "High school professors." Yikes! Meant teachers, not professors. I > >>>> thought I fixed that in a second read. Been working with universities > for > >>>> too long. > >>>> Tom, that sounds like something that could really use some development > >>>> in the way of documented techniques or presenting the information. You > may > >>>> want to check out the stuff on the Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf > project > >>>> for materials you can destribute instead of making all of them > yourself > >>>> (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf). We also have been > developing > >>>> a fair amount of stuff at the education portal on outreach, though > still a > >>>> work in progress (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education). Alot > has > >>>> already been developed in fairly professional ways, it just needs to > be > >>>> applied in the class room, > >>>> Alex > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Morton > >>>> <morton.tho...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Chris, > >>>>> Yes, that was my impression too - I have some ideas/proposals to try > >>>>> and bring into play but didn't want to step on top of an active > project that > >>>>> I'd missed :P > >>>>> I'm based in Lincolnshire. > >>>>> > >>>>> Alex, > >>>>> I've been keeping a close eye on the Ambassadors project - it looks > >>>>> like some great work (yet another reason to wish I was a student > again :)). > >>>>> Expanding that into schools is a major project, but one that I think > would > >>>>> net us some massive gains long term. I'd be really interested in > hearing > >>>>> about your work with the high school professors. > >>>>> In general: > >>>>> I've been interested in education for a while; I'm a scout leader > here > >>>>> & my parents have their own business doing educational visits to > schools on > >>>>> the topic of astronomy (so I have fairly extensive experience of that > sort > >>>>> of "business model"). The reason I have a specific interest now is > that I've > >>>>> been approached to look at doing an evening class on computers and > the > >>>>> internet at a local secondary school. One of the topics I want to > cover is > >>>>> Wikipedia and WP editing. > >>>>> I could put together some teaching material & release it for others > to > >>>>> use on an ad-hoc basis, but I think there is loads more we could > expand into > >>>>> if WMUK were behind it - stuff like working with the teaching bodies > to get > >>>>> WP recognised as a resource, and perhaps even worked into the > curriculum (at > >>>>> the very least work with them to provide useful material for > >>>>> teachers/students about Wikipedia). In fact, something like the > training > >>>>> events Cancer Research people (but for teachers) would be really > interesting > >>>>> to explore. > >>>>> Another off-hand idea; it would be great to try and team up with some > >>>>> of the GLAM institutions to run educational days (i.e. have groups of > kids > >>>>> turn up to learn about stuff using local and Wikipedia content, and > to get > >>>>> an introduction to Wikipedia). > >>>>> And more; we could use WMUK resources to train up and support > Wikipedia > >>>>> volunteers who want to go into the classroom - because teaching kids > can be > >>>>> damned hard! > >>>>> There's a lot to focus on, but I think it is one of our most > important > >>>>> outreach areas in the UK. > >>>>> Tom > >>>>> > >>>>> On 1 June 2011 16:40, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think it's been hibernating for a while. I haven't heard it > >>>>>> mentioned at all since the new Board took office. > >>>>>> Of course, if someone wants to pick up the ball and run with it, > that > >>>>>> would be very welcome. Whereabouts are you, Tom? > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Morton > >>>>>> <morton.tho...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hey all, > >>>>>>> What is the status of our work with > >>>>>>> schools/education? > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project seems > >>>>>>> to be a little stagnant, there are references to other School > interactions > >>>>>>> on the Wiki (including a link to a hidden office page about the > educational > >>>>>>> budget). > >>>>>>> Is any of this still active? > >>>>>>> I only ask because I've been approached locally to do some > in-school > >>>>>>> work relating to Wikipedia and it occurred to me that this is a > major area > >>>>>>> we could be focusing on. > >>>>>>> I've got a decent amount of experience working with children, > schools > >>>>>>> and educators and it would be great to contribute that on a wider > scale. > >>>>>>> If none of those projects are particularly active, would anyone be > >>>>>>> interested in working on this (including volunteering to go into > schools and > >>>>>>> youth groups)? > >>>>>>> Tom / ErrantX > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list > >>>>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > >>>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >>>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list > >>>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > >>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list > >>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > >>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list > >>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > >>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list > >>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia UK mailing list > >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Roger Bamkin > > (aka Victuallers) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > -- Roger Bamkin (aka Victuallers)
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