Just wanted to say your comment about needing a community liaison was spot on. 
It's something I've been thinking about for a while, but I don't want to plug 
it too hard because I'd give serious thought to applying if it ever came up!


Best,
Harry


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 From: Thomas Morton <morton.tho...@googlemail.com>
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list <wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org> 
Sent: Monday, 18 June 2012, 14:49
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Recruiting for the Developer
 

Looking at the job description I have some concerns that it has been written 
without the input of someone experienced in hiring individuals for technical or 
pseudo-technical roles - especially in the current economic climate. 

You seem to be looking for someone extremely versatile, experienced 
and independent... on a very entry level salary packet.

I was under the impression, from previous discussions, that the developer 
position was to be contractor-style - or at least remote working in the region 
~10 hours a week.

As a developer, from the description page, I see the following roles:

* Developer
* Sysadmin
* Project manager
* Advocate

Four very distinct roles.

To pick on one specific issue; expecting this person to work on Mediwiki core, 
or an extension, is going to be problematic. That's a whole position on its own 
and you are going to find that ongoing "other work" will make project work of 
that sort untenable.

(speaking as someone who is in much this position at the moment; my project 
work is on hold pretty much all the time whilst clearing up management issues).

I worry that there is not a lot of work described in this job; or at least 
the responsibilities are bitty and ill-defined. You're risking having someone 
who will sit for long portions of the day drumming their fingers on the 
desk. (speaking as someone who was hired to do this once, and quit after 3 
months due to boredom). It would be good to define (internally, on the WMUK 
wiki) the roles this developer will have to fulfill and, from a 
technical perspective, what we'd like to achieve in, say, the next year.

The salary is most concerning though; you're looking for experience and 
versatility - two major technical skills (sysadmin and developer) plus 
management experience/skill - at a basic entry level rate. I think you will 
struggle to find competent applicants.

I'd fit, fairly well, this job description (and I think am pretty good at it) - 
and any London based job under £35K would struggle to tempt me. Under £30K is 
not even worth considering. (n.b. I'm not saying this because I'd plan to apply 
if you raised the salary :)). You;fe

What I recommend is hiring a more general community liaison (we need this 
anyway IMO), with experience in technical projects. They can do most of the PM 
style work. Then contract out specific projects (yes, including MW extension 
writing) as and when needed. Keep a contractor on retainer for sysadmin and 
internal dev work (~10 hours a week etc.).

Particularly as you have numerous skilled dev/sysadmin contractors within the 
community who will likely offer discounted rates. Building on the WMF model; 
with a competent project manager most of the dev/sysadmin work could be 
community driven. I've already offered to pitch in, but there is no public 
project to achieve this that I know of.

If we have a budget of £30K to go into development this is not enough to hire a 
full time developer/sysadmin/manager. It's enough to contract the work and to 
begin to build a volunteer centric development department.

Mike wrote an excellent starter to this 
here: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Developer_budget The current job 
description seems to be the opposite of many of those (good) proposals 
(although I know Mike also wrote the job description). If we take the list of 
upcoming requirements from that page there are even bigger images; it talks 
about a robust backup strategy - which is quite a specific set of experience. 
Even worse is the security review stuff - no dev/sysadmin you hire for £25K 
will be capable of a robust security review.

As always; just my 2p :)

Tom

(sorry to be over-critical, but I am in a rush today so this is first draft 
sent :))


On 18 June 2012 13:41, Jon Davies <jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

We will shortly be advertising for our developer post. We will be spreading the 
word far and wide, especially within the community, but all suggestions 
gratefully received.
>So far (outside leads:
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>Tech hub
>Civi-CRM
>Google academy
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