Thanks Fae, this is super helpful! By 'legal clarity' I meant 'will talk to people in the community who know more about this than I do', rather than 'see a lawyer' :)
Will follow up early next week. Cheers Lucy On 9 December 2016 at 10:13, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > See [1], in short if a list can be created by repeatable analysis of > data, then it's not copyrightable, otherwise, by definition, it must > have subjective creativity and so is copyrightable. The 100 women list > is not independently repeatable, so to be published on Wikipedia > without future risk of deletion, there needs to be a release from the > copyright holder. > > For the English Wikipedia, the copyright of lists was thrashed out by > the community several years ago. I became part of that discussion in > its early days as I was using lists of film box-office income as part > of a large number of articles I was creating for Bollywood film > history. I suggest the charity takes advantage of that existing > investment in volunteer time, rather than spending its resources > elsewhere, especially as the Wikipedia community would still need to > accept any differing opinion. > > By the way, I worked closely with Maggie Dennis to get this right, she > is an excellent thinker on these aspects of copyright. In those days > she was an independent volunteer, but now is the WMF Director of > Support, Safety and Programs. You could always drop her a note. > > Link > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_in_lists > > Thanks, > Fae > > On 9 December 2016 at 09:31, Lucy Crompton-Reid > <lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > > Hi all > > > > There does seem to be some disagreement as to whether copyright is > actually > > an issue in the case of the list of 100 women. I will be doing quite a > lot > > of follow up with the BBC over the next few weeks so am happy to add > this to > > my list of things to discuss, however I will try to seek legal clarity on > > this question first. > > > > Thanks > > Lucy > > > > On 8 December 2016 at 23:18, Gordon Joly <gordon.j...@pobox.com> wrote: > >> > >> On 08/12/16 17:32, Michael Peel wrote: > >> > An interesting question that could do with a speedy response (and > maybe > >> > a copyright release email from the BBC to OTRS) has been posted at: > >> > > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:100_Women_(BBC)#Is_it_ > not_a_copyright_violation_to_publish_this_list.3F > >> > > >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:100_Women_%28BBC%29# > Is_it_not_a_copyright_violation_to_publish_this_list.3F> > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Mike > >> > >> I have often observed how the BBC did not adopt a standard Creative > >> Commons licence but developed their own (as a result of the massive > >> pressure of rights). > >> > >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/creativearchive/ > >> > >> So, don't hold your breath! > >> > >> Gordo > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia UK mailing list > >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Lucy Crompton-Reid > > > > Chief Executive > > > > Wikimedia UK > > > -- > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Lucy Crompton-Reid Chief Executive Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0991 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
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