Dear Michael, Thanks for your invaluable response. There's certainly a great need to reach out to the coloured community for Wikipedia awareness and edit workshops, there's a dearth of Afrikaaps on Wiki. @Shupai, trust you are noting UWC.
Dear Rossouw, your comment is noted, I'll reach out to Moleskin to raise these concerns. Best, Bobby Shabangu On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 10:30, Rossouw van Rooyen <[email protected]> wrote: > Not that I am under any illusion that my opinion matters, but I strongly > recommend everyone to have absolutely nothing to do with this > leech-organisation. > > > > > > > > > *Rossouw van RooyenFarm ManagerWildheim <https://www.wildheim.net/>Cell: > 081 874 1191Tel: 063 280 650* > > > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 10:21, Michael Graaf <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> what I was saying was that instead of seeing this as an issue of Afrikaans >> being discriminated against, it should be seen as careless >> communication/ignorance on the part of Moleskine. We would all gladly >> support them if they announced that their mission was to boost >> marginalised >> languages (those with small wikis/few contributors). However,they >> expressed >> it by saying they want to support indigenous languages, with an assumption >> that these two categories overlap. >> >> However Afrikaans is an exception, since it isn't marginalised. They >> failed >> to take that fact into consideration, and hence they raised false >> expectations. Then, adding insult to injury, they tried to explain by >> saying Afrikaans is not indigenous, rather than that it's not >> marginalised. >> So we need to advise them to be more careful. >> >> On a personal note, let me remind board members that we have previously >> discussed the issue of "Afrikaaps" being the marginalised side of >> Afrikaans. After I shared a radio interview with you, I was mandated to >> contact the panelists, which I did, but without them taking up the offer >> of >> a workshop. More recently UWC has published the first dictionary of >> Afrikaaps, so perhaps someone there might be interested in dialogue. >> >> Regards, >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bobby Shabangu <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Dear Shupai, >> > >> > Kindly remind me what resolution did we take on the issue Deon is >> raising. >> > I remember him raising that he applied for the Wikimedian in Residence >> > position and he made a follow up why he was not selected as a candidate >> but >> > instead he was informed they don't recognize Afrikaans, @Deon correct >> me if >> > I'm wrong here! >> > >> > I think I said I was going to write a letter to chastise them for such >> > kind of harsh response since Rossouw an Afrikaans speaker played a >> pivotal >> > role in this project. And I remember Michael speaking but my internet >> went >> > down I don't remember how we finally said we were gonna move forward >> with >> > this issue? Kindly remind me so that I respond immediately. >> > >> > Best, >> > Bobby Shabangu >> > >> > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 08:00, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi guys >> >> >> >> The very same people that does not recognise Afrikaans as an indigenous >> >> language... >> >> >> >> Deon >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Bobby Shabangu <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Woensdag 22 September 2021 02:25 >> >> To: Tochi Precious <[email protected]>; WikimediaZA List >> >> <[email protected]>; Shupai Mchuchu < >> >> [email protected]>; >> >> Ngonidzashe Chipunza <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Re: Kind request for support for AfroCuration >> >> South >> >> Africa event >> >> >> >> Dear Tochi, >> >> >> >> Thanks for reaching out, we already know about this project from a >> >> presentation made by Papa some couple of months back. Shupai our >> >> administrator will let you know there are more volunteers from the >> Chapter >> >> and community who would like to take part here. >> >> >> >> @Shupai Mchuchu <[email protected]> kindly note these dates and >> >> send >> >> me a reminder 2 days before it takes place. Also kindly send this to >> our >> >> community and board to find out if there aren't any volunteers who >> would >> >> want to take part and volunteer with their time in this project. I'll >> >> certainly be there. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Bobby Shabangu >> >> >> >> On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 16:59, Tochi Precious < >> [email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hello Bobby, my name is [[User: Tochiprecious]]. I'm one of the >> >> > founding members of @wikimediaigbo and also a Wikipedian in Residence >> >> > at Moleskine Foundation working on the WikiAfrica Education project. >> >> > >> >> > I pioneered the last AfroCuration on 4th and 5th September in >> >> > Mozambique where I worked with the WMF Language Team to get the >> >> > Makhuwa language Wikipedia into the incubator. We had over 70 >> >> > participants and have created over 120 articles since then. >> >> > >> >> > My next program is in S.A, with Constitution Hill and Harambee on >> 26th >> >> > and 27th of October and I would like to ask for your assistance as a >> >> > User Group to help train new editors to edit your language Wikipedia, >> >> > and also mentor them to become part of your user group and also >> >> > knowledge contributors in your language on Wiki. >> >> > >> >> > Also, I would like to find out the languages that the S.A User Group >> >> > edits Wiki in. >> >> > >> >> > I'll be looking forward to hearing from you soon. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks a lot >> >> > Tochi >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> WikimediaZA mailing list -- [email protected] To >> >> unsubscribe >> >> send an email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@ >> %(host_name)s >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> WikimediaZA mailing list -- [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@ >> %(host_name)s >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> Michael Graaf, M.Phil (UCT) >> >> Researcher, Editor & >> Community Informatics Practitioner >> >> Mob +27795487242 >> WhatsApp/ Signal/ Telegram +27647754342 >> ORCID 0000-0002-1951-5739 >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaZA mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@%(host_name)s >> > _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@%(host_name)s
