I'm for porting everything (minus PD articles) up to 3.0. However, I don't want us to switch to CC-BY-SA 3.0. The point is to get our articles out there.... and CC-BY help us that way, more then good old media does with their restrictive good old copyright and non-redistribution and paid reporters!
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Brian McNeil <[email protected]>wrote: > There are two changes WP must make before that can happen. > > > > First they have to move to the new GFDL which has the CC migration clause. > > > > Then they have to move to the CC license. > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of * > [email protected] > *Sent:* 02 March 2009 16:39 > *To:* Wikinews mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [Wikinews-l] License change? > > > > Regarding the Wikipedia license change ... > > ... It is my belief that after they make their change, Wikinews will be > able to cut and paste passages from Wikipedia. > > Is my assumption correct or false? > > It would be helpful in quickly creating background information for articles > and eliminates one place we have to look for copyvios. > > *SVT**Cobra* > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jon Davis > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009 1:37 am > Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] License change? > To: Wikinews mailing list > > > Yea. Forgive me. For some reason I had the wild ass notion that > > the old > > articles were GFDL. I really don't know where that came from. > > > > -Jon > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 22:18, Ilya Haykinson > > wrote: > > > > > I agree with Bawolff on this one. The license change is mainly a > > > problem for GFDL wikis, which suffer from some problems with > > > attribution and reuse in CC-licensed projects as a result of their > > > license. We do not have this issue, and don't really need to change. > > > Even if we wanted to, we would face an uphill battle in making our > > > license more restrictive retroactively. Unless there's an overriding > > > reason to do so, I'd elect to retain our more-free license in place. > > > Goodness knows, we don't need _more_ restrictions on reuse of > > Wikinews> content ;-) > > > > > > -ilya > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:04 PM, bawolff > > >> wrote: > > > > From my understanding, wmf wants to change the lices from > > gfdl to > > > > cc-by-sa-(3? not sure on version) which is quite different > > than cc-by > > > > (similar to the difference between GPL and BSD from my > > understanding).> > We also don't really have the ability to > > arbitrary change license (we > > > > could say something like from this day forward, everything > > is blah > > > > license, but thats messy). > > > > > > > > Anyways, i think our license is pretty good. Many people > > feel that > > > > modifying wikinews content without allowing redistribution > > is a > > > > perfectly good use of our content, which a change in license would > > > > disallow. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > - bawolff > > > > > > > > p.s. everything before sep 05 is PD, not GFDL. We currently > > have only > > > > a single gfdl article in all of wikinews (not counting help > > ns + > > > > images) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Jon Davis > > wrote: > > > >> I realize we all _love_ a conversation about changing > > licenses... but > > > here I > > > >> go. > > > >> > > > >> The WMF has been disusing the change of WP from GFDL to CC- > > BY (since > > > that is > > > >> now allowed for a short period of time). Since everything > > newer than > > > Sept > > > >> 05 on en.wn is CC-BY-2.5 (and everything older than that is > > GFDL)... why > > > >> can't we "upgrade" all the old articles to CC-BY also? I > > realize we > > > don't > > > >> "need" to do it, as the old articles are of little interest > > to most > > > people, > > > >> but we have the opportunity... shouldn't we take it? > > > >> > > > >> -Jon > > > >> [[User:ShakataGaNai]] > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> This is a test of the emergency sig system. > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Wikinews-l mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikinews-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikinews-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > This is a test of the emergency sig system. > > > > Oh, and the following location only accurate +/- 100 miles. So > > if you're > > coming to get me, better send a nuke. > > Sent from: Sunnyvale CA United States. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > -- Autism is both a gift and a curse at the same time; But I think of it as a gift.
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