Personally i've seen all the trouble that commons goes through to be
multilingual (from the outside anyways; the commoners can coment
better then me), and it seems to be a lot of effort (even from a
simple prespective of should the welcome message be in english or
french).
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On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:59 PM, gopher65 <[email protected]> wrote:
> You know, I've actually been recently considering an idea for combining all
> of the Wikinews language editions into a single project. However, the code
> required to accomplish this in a reasonable fashion does not currently
> exist, and I don't think that anyone at the foundation would be willing to
> jump in and volunteer the significant amount of dev time that would be
> necessary to make such a project possible from a technical perspective...
> even though I can see Wikipedia benefiting immensely from the same tech.
>
> Imagine going onto a single, non-language specific Wikipedia, simply
> selecting your language from a list, and having every major article appear
> in your selected language. You switch to another language, the same article
> appears, with the same text, merely having been translated by users.
> Translation is MUCH easier than writing a Featured Article quality article
> from scratch (FA articles take a surprising amount of effort and time to
> write), so this would significantly decrease the current duplication of
> effort that is taking place in the "separate but equal" multiple-languages
> version of the mediawiki software that we currently use. In such a model of
> Wikipedia much more emphasis would be placed on the translation of other
> language's articles into every language than is currently the case. (For
> instance, a while ago I was looking up some special type of Russian Perogie.
> The article I wanted doesn't exist on English Wikipedia, but it does exist
> on Russian Wikipedia... which was useless to me, because I don't speak
> Russian. Thankfully Google Translate came to the rescue... sorta.) ;-)
>
> Back to Wikinews and the issue at hand. As a Wikinews specific example of
> how this could eventually work: you have an article about something that
> happened in France, investigated by French Wikinewies, originally written in
> French, and then translated into Dutch, English, German, and Mandarin by
> other Wikinewsies. That type of coordination is currently *possible*, but
> it's much more difficult to manage than it would be in a better designed,
> multi-frontpage, auto-language selection multi-lingual site (based on your
> preferences for logged in users, or a per-visit dropdown language selection
> system (for non-logged in users)). Right now if you try to do that kind of
> thing you're attempting to coordinate 20 different people spread across 10
> different sites; it's nigh-on impossible in practice, unfortunately.
>
> Because of the technical issues that would need to be addressed, at the
> present time I'd have to say that a multi-lingual version of Wikinews simply
> isn't practical. Combining the efforts of Wikinewies everywhere and reducing
> our duplication of effort via translation of locally investigated and
> written articles would be a great idea, but it's not something that will
> happen soon. That's something for the far future (10 or 15 years from now
> maybe), not for the immediate future. Wikinews as a whole has bigger things
> to worry about than that, for the moment.
>
> Maybe though, Wikipedia doesn't?
>
> Gopher65
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Milos Rancic" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:32 AM
> To: "Wikinews mailing list" <[email protected]>; "Wikimedia
> Foundation Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Wikinews-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikinews
>
>> I am cleaning Requests for new languages [1] at Meta. Some of the
>> requests are clearly out of the Language committee scope, and they
>> need wider discussion for concluding them.
>>
>> One of such requests is for multilingual Wikinews [2]. Please, discuss
>> here (at foundation-l; I am sending this message to wikinews-l to poke
>> those who are not at foundation-l) or on wiki at the page [2].
>>
>> [1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages
>> [2] -
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_multilingual
>>
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