Hello Amir

Yep, I got the rejection messages, but quite late. I re-posted the messages
after a fix.

Like the wikis, mailing lists have their own rules: some will put messages
in moderation while others are just rejecting messages. It is hard to keep
track of which does what.

Benoît

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 12:13 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I think the email somehow didn't reach wikitech-l and some other mailing
> lists (except ambassadors)
>
> Am Mo., 4. Sept. 2023 um 15:46 Uhr schrieb Benoît Evellin (Trizek) <
> bevel...@wikimedia.org>:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>> Sorry for cross-posting.
>>
>> The Technical Decision-Making Forum Retrospective
>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_decision_making> team invites
>> you to join one of our “listening sessions” about the Wikimedia's technical
>> decision-making processes.
>>
>> We are running the listening sessions to provide a venue for people to
>> tell us about their experience, thoughts, and needs regarding the process
>> of making technical decisions across the Wikimedia technical spaces. This
>> complements the survey
>> <https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/885471?lang=en>, which
>> closed on August 7.
>>
>> Who should participate in the listening sessions?
>>
>> People who do technical work that relies on software maintained by the
>> Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) or affiliates. If you contribute code to
>> MediaWiki or extensions used by Wikimedia, or you maintain gadgets or tools
>> that rely on WMF infrastructure, and you want to tell us more than could be
>> expressed through the survey, the listening sessions are for you.
>>
>> How can I take part in a listening session?
>>
>> There will be four sessions on two days, to accommodate all time zones.
>> The two first sessions are scheduled:
>>
>>    - Wednesday, September 13, 14:00 – 14:50 UTC
>>    <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1694613630>
>>    - Wednesday, September 13, 20:00 – 20:50 UTC
>>    <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1694635220>
>>
>>
>> The sessions will be held on the Zoom platform.
>>
>> If you want to participate, please sign up for the one you want to
>> attend: <
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_decision_making/Listening_Sessions>.
>> If none of the times work for you, please leave a message on the talk page.
>> It will help us schedule the two last sessions.
>>
>> The sessions will be held in English. If you want to participate but you
>> are not comfortable speaking English, please say so when signing up so that
>> we can provide interpretation services.
>>
>> The sessions will be recorded and transcribed so we can later go back and
>> extract all relevant information. The recordings and transcripts will not
>> be made public, except for anonymized summaries of the outcomes.
>>
>> What will the Retrospective Team do with the information?
>>
>> The retrospective team will collect the input provided through the
>> survey, the listening sessions and other means, and will publish an
>> anonymized summary that will help leadership make decisions about the
>> future of the process.
>>
>> In the listening sessions, we particularly hope to gather information on
>> the general needs and perceptions about decision-making in our technical
>> spaces. This will help us understand what kind of decisions happen in the
>> spaces, who is involved, who is impacted, and how to adjust our processes
>> accordingly.
>>
>> Are the listening sessions the best way to participate?
>>
>> The primary way for us to gather information about people’s needs and
>> wants with respect to technical decision making was the survey
>> <https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/885471?lang=en>. The
>> listening sessions are an important addition that provides a venue for free
>> form conversations, so we can learn about aspects that do not fit well with
>> the structure of the survey.
>>
>> In addition to the listening sessions and the survey, there are two more
>> ways to share your thoughts about technical decision making: You can post
>> on the talk page
>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Technical_decision_making/Technical_Decision-Making_Process_Retrospective_and_Consultation_plan>,
>> or you can send an email to <tdf-retro-2...@lists.wikimedia.org>.
>>
>> Where can I find more information?
>>
>> There are several places where you can find more information about the
>> Technical Decision-Making Process Retrospective:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    The original announcement about the retrospective from Tajh Taylor:
>>    
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/IF3OJARL4WYKJYQAS7NTP4FT72R626EG/
>>    -
>>
>>    The Technical Decision-Making Process general information page:
>>    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_decision_making
>>    -
>>
>>    The Technical Decision-Making Process Retrospective page:
>>    
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_decision_making/Technical_Decision-Making_Process_Retrospective_and_Consultation_plan
>>    -
>>
>>    The Phabricator ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T333235
>>
>>
>> Who is running the technical decision making retrospective?
>>
>> The retrospective was initiated by Tajh Taylor. The core group running
>> the process consists of Moriel Schottlender (chair), Daniel Kinzler, Chris
>> Danis, Kosta Harlan, and Temilola Adeleye. You can contact us at <
>> tdf-retro-2...@lists.wikimedia.org>.
>>
>> Thank you for participating!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Benoît Evellin - Trizek (he/him)
>>
>> Community Relations Specialist
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>
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