On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/8/1 Brian <brian.min...@colorado.edu>:
> > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:07 PM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 2009/8/1 Brian <brian.min...@colorado.edu>:
>
> >> > And of course, you can just ship them the binaries!
>
> >> Trusted clients are impossible. Particularly for prrotecting against
> >> lulz-seekers.
>
> > Impossible? That's hyperbole.
>
>
> No, it's mathematically accurate. There is NO SUCH THING as a trusted
> client. It's the same problem as DRM and security by obscurity.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_client
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_by_obscurity
>
> Never trust the client. Ever, ever, ever. If you have a working model
> that relies on a trusted client you're fucked already.
>
> Basically, if you want to distribute binaries to reduce hackability
> ... it won't work and you might as well be distributing source.
> Security by obscurity just isn't.
>
>
> - d.
>

Ok, nice rant. But nobody cares if you scramble their scientific data before
sending it back to the server. They will notice the statistical blip and ban
you.

I don't think in terms of impossible. It impedes progress.
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