On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Unforgettableid
<unforgettabl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A)  Did I go too far when I did all the research I described above?  Do you
> yourself often use the Range Contributions tool[4] for looking at vandals' 
> ISPs'
> contributions?

Most of the people here aren't enwiki vandal hunters.  Why don't you
ask wikien-l instead?

> B)  What do you think are the chances that the same person made both the
> first[1] and the second[7] vandalistic edits?  The IP addresses' binary
> representations are quite different.

Possible but unlikely.  If you look at the reverse DNS, one is
cpe-174-105-248-31.insight.res.rr.com and one is
cpe-174-106-099-246.nc.res.rr.com.  The latter looks like it's
probably from RoadRunner in North Carolina, while the former has
"insight" instead of "nc" -- not sure what that is, but they're
probably geographically different groups of customers.

> C)  Why did no anti-vandalism software automatically revert either edit?

This list is for MediaWiki development and Wikimedia systems
adminstration.  The various auto-reverting bots are maintained by
entirely different people, and you should ask them.

> D)  When I look at the history[9] of [[Patrick Stump]], I see that there were
> fourteen edits between 06:51 and 07:03, most vandalism.  Yet the vandalistic
> edits come from a variety of IP addresses and usernames.  The IP addresses
> differ widely from each other.  Why is this?

Maybe because they're totally different people?

> E)  When comparing two vandals' edits in other situations, is there any quick
> way for editors to find out both IPs' hostnames, User-Agents, Accept-Charset
> strings, Accept-Language strings, screen resolutions, and/or IP geolocation
> results?  I do very little vandalism removal, so I myself am not sure.

You can find out their reverse DNS and whois information through
standard tools, such as the command-line utilities "dig" and "whois"
or various websites that will run them for you.  Geolocation services
are provided by a variety of websites using different databases of
varying quality.  The rest is not available to unprivileged users,
although some is available to checkusers (at least for logged-in
users, dunno about anonymous).

> F)  Which netblocks do the most vandalism and the least useful editing?  Which
> cities?  Which entire countries?  Should those netblocks, cities, and 
> countries
> be forced to log in before editing?

That's a policy decision that would be made either by Wikimedia or
individual wikis, not by devs/sysadmins, so this isn't the right list.

> G)  Wouldn't it be cool if some web browsers or ISPs would tell Wikipedia 
> what a
> contributor's PPPoE username was whenever the contributor made an edit?

That's not very useful for people who don't use PPPoE, which is
probably a large majority.  We do have arrangements with some ISPs,
like AOL, to send X-Forwarded-For headers so we can display users'
real IP addresses rather than those of proxies.  It's very unlikely
that ISPs would be willing to give us their customers' names -- their
customers pay them, we don't.

> If you reply to only one of A), B), C), D), E), F), or G) then please use a
> different subject line than I used.  And add a "(was: ...)" tag at the end of
> the subject line.  That way, it'll be easier for others to follow just the 
> parts
> of the discussion that they want to follow.

I don't think this discussion will go on for much longer anyway, and
people would not appreciate it if I posted seven times as many
responses to a thread that's largely off-topic to begin with.

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