On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:38 AM, cyrano <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello, this topic is from foundation-l, I think it is more suited on
> wikitech-l.
>
> -------- Message original --------
>
> What about sharing the whole databases among the millions of users, in
> some p2p net with a lot of redundancies?, something like a dense, cloudy
> internet of databases who remains whole even if it looses part of
> itself? Does it sound unwordly?
> It could be a good complement to the server based versions.

this sounds nice but just wouldn't work at all.  we need to have
reliable databases with a consistant latency.

>
> Le 22/01/2012 20:50, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen a écrit :
>> The simple option that will just blow all this talk fo lobbying away,
>> is to migrate outside US jurisdiction entirely. It does entail some
>> costs, and may well not be optimal, on many fronts.

s/some/lots of/

>>
>> A medium option is to do a plan on the lines of the actions that
>> Google has already put into  force, of diversifying datacenters that
>> have our non-fungible assets, so that for enforcement they would
>> have to invade sovreign territory. But for a non-profit, our best line
>> would be to say that we are making those plans, but actually want
>> to keep the US have the PR benefit of being able to say that WMF
>> like entities find the US best to be incorporated in. And then grin
>> very hard, so they know we mean business. Follow up with saying
>> the very real contingency plans can not wait on their realizing they
>> have the wrong end of the stick, so we have to act now.
>>
>> So we will put a few fallback datacenters elsewhere, just so our
>> various communities and chapters realize we aren't going to be
>> bullied by US jurisdiction. But we have a much more expansive
>> plan which we tell we will eventually realize. But the legislators
>> in the US have to understand we are doing this all so they realize
>> what they are working on is harmful to prosperity around the globe.
>>

again, expensive!

>> And if they play ball, (we won't give a cent of tribute, sorry) we will
>> not accelerate the rate at which we realize the full international
>> nature of the Wikimedia Foundation.
>>
>> That is pretty much the line of "education" that might be effective,
>> without costing the Foundation a single backhander.
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