Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 103, Issue 35

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:43:36 -0800 

Have been in India for a developer event among others for the past week,
so I haven't had time to respond. Now on my way to Paris, but praise wifi
on high speed trains...

tl;dr: Nothing wrong. See my detailed response below.

Cheers!

Siebrand


>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:38:48 +1100
>> From: Tim Starling <tstarl...@wikimedia.org>
>> To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] discrepancies in Messages*.php files 1.18 ->
>>        1.19
>> Can you say what the changed keys were, and what the initial and final
>> value was?
>>
>> -- Tim Starling
>>
>
>
> MessagesEn_ca has no 1.18 version

Nothing wrong here. No preset locale specific namespace names and locale
falls back to 'en'.

> MessagesEnRTL in 1.18, name changed to MessagesEn_rtl in 1.19, both
> contain
> only "$rtl=true"

This is a locale for testing purposes only.


> MessagesFrp 1.18 has NS_USER => 'Utilisator', 1.19 has NS_USER =>
> 'Usanciér',
>    NS_USER_TALK        => 'Discussion_utilisator', NS_USER_TALK        =>
> 'Discussion_usanciér',

The first reported change was added to $namespaceAliases. The second
already was in $namespaceAliases, albeit with different casing. As
namespace names are case insensive, they are equal. No issues here.

> MessagesIg 1.18 has NS_MEDIA            => 'Nká', 1.19 has NS_MEDIA
>    => 'Midia',
>      NS_USER             => 'Ọ\'bà nifé',NS_USER             =>
> 'Ọbanife',
>      NS_USER_TALK        => 'Okwu_ọ\'bà nifé', NS_USER_TALK        =>
> 'Okwu_ọbanife',
>      NS_FILE             => 'Ákwúkwó_orünotu',NS_FILE             =>
> 'Usòrò',
>      NS_FILE_TALK        => 'Okwu_ákwúkwó_orünotu',NS_FILE_TALK
> =>
> 'Okwu_usòrò',
>      NS_MEDIAWIKI        => 'NkáWiki',NS_MEDIAWIKI        => 'MidiaWiki',
>      NS_CATEGORY         => 'Ébéonọr', NS_CATEGORY         => 'Òtù',
>      NS_CATEGORY_TALK    => 'Okwu_ébéonọr',NS_CATEGORY_TALK    =>
> 'Okwu_òtù',

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.

> MessagesMk has 1.18 NS_MEDIA            => 'Медија', 1.19 NS_MEDIA
>    => 'Медиум',

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.

> MessagesMzn has 1.18 < NS_MEDIA            => 'مه‌دیا',       h1.19
> NS_MEDIA            => 'مدیا',
>      1.18 has no NS_MAIN, 1.19 has NS_MAIN             => '',
>      NS_MEDIAWIKI        => 'مه‌دیاویکی', NS_MEDIAWIKI
> => 'مدیاویکی',
>      NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   => 'مه‌دیاویکی_گپ',
> NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   =>
> 'مدیاویکی_گپ',
>    NS_HELP             => 'رانه‌ما', NS_HELP             =>
> 'رانما',
>    NS_HELP_TALK        => 'رانه‌مائه_گپ', NS_HELP_TALK
> => 'رانما_گپ',

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.

> MessagesNb 1.18 has no $namespaceNames array, 1.19 does.

This is a renamed locale (from no to nb). No issues here.

> MessagesNds_nl has 1.8 NS_SPECIAL          => 'Speciaal', NS_SPECIAL
>    => 'Spesiaal',
> NS_FILE             => 'Ofbeelding', NS_FILE             => 'Bestaand'
>   NS_FILE_TALK        => 'Overleg_ofbeelding', NS_FILE_TALK        =>
> 'Overleg_bestaand',
>   NS_CATEGORY         => 'Kattegerie', NS_CATEGORY         => 'Kategorie',
>   NS_CATEGORY_TALK    => 'Overleg_kattegerie', NS_CATEGORY_TALK    =>
> 'Overleg_kategorie',

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.

> MessagesNo has a $namespaceNames in 1.18, contains only "$fallback =
> 'nb';"
> in 1.19
> MessagesOr is unprintable but differs in NS_USER, NS_USER_TALK,
> NS_PROJECT_TALK, NS_TEMPLATE, NS_TEMPLATE_TALK, NS_HELP, NS_HELP_TALK

Not really unprintable, but possibly you do not have the required font
installed on your computer.

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.

> MessagesOs has 1.18 NS_MEDIA            => 'Media', NS_MEDIA            =>
> 'Медиа',
>   NS_PROJECT_TALK     => 'Дискусси_$1', NS_PROJECT_TALK     =>
> '{{GRAMMAR:genitive|$1}}_тæрхон',
>   NS_FILE             => 'Ныв', NS_FILE             => 'Файл',
>   NS_FILE_TALK        => 'Нывы_тæрхон', NS_FILE_TALK        =>
> 'Файлы_тæрхон',
>   NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   => 'Тæрхон_MediaWiki', NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   =>
> 'MediaWiki-йы_тæрхон',

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.

> MessagesQug 1.18 has no $namespaceNames array, 1.19 does.

This locale does not have a Wikimedia wiki or a known implementation yet.
Namespace names are not used when the language has for example an
Incubator project in the Wikimedia Incubator, which has English as content
language. No issues here.

> MessagesSa 1.18 NS_SPECIAL          => 'विशेष', NS_SPECIAL
>    =>
> 'विशेषम्'

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.

> MessagesSr_ec 1.18 has NS_FILE             => 'Датотека', NS_FILE
>   => 'Фајл',
>   NS_FILE_TALK        => 'Разговор_о_датотеци',
> NS_FILE_TALK        =>
> 'Разговор_о_фајлу',
>   NS_MEDIAWIKI        => 'Медијавики', NS_MEDIAWIKI        =>
> 'МедијаВики',
>   NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   => 'Разговор_о_Медијавикију',
> Разговор_о_Медијавикију" => NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK,

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.

> MessagesWar 1.18 has no namespaceNames array, 1.19 does.

Language has no other fallback than default, which is English. All English
language namespace names will work. No problems here.

> MessagesYue 1.18 has NS_PROJECT_TALK     => '$1_傾偈', NS_PROJECT_TALK
>   =>
> '$1傾偈',
>   NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   => 'MediaWiki_傾偈', NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   =>
> 'MediaWiki傾偈',

All pre-existing primary namespace names were added to $namespaceAliases.
No issues here.


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