As long as people in the templating community were at least consulted with,
then that's fine. I'm just saying we cannot randomly throw features onto
users without discussing it with them.

*--*
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015
Major in Computer Science
www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com



On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Derric Atzrott
> <datzr...@alizeepathology.com> wrote:
> >>> I don't think the editor community has much reason to participate. The
> >>> template creator community does. They are more than technical to
> >>> understand things on wikitech-l.
> >>
> >>AIUI the Lua idea was explicitly run past the few people who write the
> >>insanely horrible brainfuck-like ParserFunctions templates. (Is this
> >>correct?) They would be the relevant part of the editor community - most
> >>of the editor community just want the template itself to work, they
> >>neither know nor care about the details of the plumbing.
> >
> > Fair enough.  That satisfies my threshold for consulting the community.
> >
> > If the people who would be most affected had a chance to give their input
> > I would say that this project is good to go then.
> >
> > >From what I understand lua was not chosen just randomly by throwing a
> >>bunch of languages in a hat, there were many requirements, such as
> >>sandbox-ability, performance concerns, and ease of implementing resource
> >>limits, etc. If I recall lua came out the clear winner.
> >
> > This also seems perfectly fair.  My points have been refuted and I humbly
> > accept defeat.
> >
> >>That said, I do agree that we should plan the roll-out rather than just
> >>tossing it over the wall -- preparing some initial documentation and
> >>tutorials to show HOW and WHY it's easier/faster than the old system
> >>would go a long way (imho) to assuage complaints of disconnect from what
> >>the community wants.
> >
> > +1 million.  This is a must.  No one likes change, but anything we can do
> > to make that change easier on people will make things better.  The old
> > templating system will still be functional correct?
> >
>
> Yes. Nothing that currently works will be removed. This just
> exposes Lua to people who choose to begin using it.
>
> As far as docs go, I'd suggest looking at [[mw:Lua_scripting]]
> for starts[0]. It has a lot of the requirements and links to more
> information, including a tutorial[1].
>
> -Chad
>
> [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting
> [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting/Tutorial
>
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