I'm on vacation, but it seems discussion is getting a bit out of control here: 
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40329
If someone can bring back some sensibility .....

BTW this has been 'broken' for weeks now, we should take some actual action, or 
just accept the status quo.

DJ

On 27 sep. 2012, at 23:07, Daniel Friesen <dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com> wrote:

> A bit of a side topic. But could someone point out some urls where the 
> deprecated/removed align attribute is used along with block elements that are 
> supposed to be centered too.
> 
> I've seen a lot of WikiText. But frankly, I have never seen any article or 
> template that even tried to use align to center non-inline content (besides 
> {| align=center).
> 
> -- 
> ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]
> 
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:23:37 -0700, Derk-Jan Hartman 
> <d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would like to open some discussion about
>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40329
>> This bug is about the fact that we currently do a 'partial' transform of
>> the HTML5-invalid attribute 'align'.
>> 
>> We all agree that this is bad, what we need to figure out is what to do
>> next:
>> 
>> 1: Disable the transform and output the align attribute even though it's
>> not valid HTML5. Solve validness later.
>> 2: Remove the attribute from HTML5 and 'break' the content. Fix by users
>> (or bot).
>> 3: Disable HTML5, correct the content of the wiki's (possibly with a bot)
>> and remove the attribute in HTML5 mode, reenable HTML5.
>> 4: Fix the transform (not that easy)
>> 
>> My personal preference is with 1, since this is causing trouble now and
>> with 1 we solve immediate problems, we just add to the lack of valid HTML5
>> output that we already have. In my opinion 2 would be too disruptive and 3
>> would take too long.
>> 
>> Danny is of the opinion that we should never transform at the parser side
>> and that we should fix the content instead (2 or 3).
>> 
>> So, how best to fix the issue/what should be our strategy with regard to
>> content that is not HTML 5 valid in general ?
>> <Discuss>
>> 
>> DJ
> 
> 
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