Hey,

So a quick question. I volunteered to mentor, but it doesn't seem I've been
listed as a potential mentor on any projects. Should I be doing something
to seek out students or is there just enough mentors at the moment?

Thanks,

*-- *
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015
Major in Computer Science
www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Quim Gil <q...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Specifically about the 2 mentors per project requirement:
>
>
> On 04/27/2013 04:58 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
>
>> * Get a second co-mentor for the proposals you want to see accepted.
>> It's not easy but the success rate is remarkably higher, and the
>> workload for each remarkably lower. Could be a profile complementary to
>> yours: technical vs community, professional vs volunteer, maintainer vs
>> power user, East vs West... The candidate and the project will benefit a
>> lot.
>>
>
> Brian comments that, for instance, for
>
> Proofread Page extension needs to be refactored
> www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Mentorship_programs/Possible_**
> projects#Proofread_Page_**extension_needs_to_be_**refactored<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Proofread_Page_extension_needs_to_be_refactored>
>
> Tpt is the only maintainer and looking at past contributions there is no
> other significant active contributor.
>
> Sure, this is a problem and in fact a factor to push a GSoC / OPW project
> in order to increase the community health of an "endangered species".  ;)
> However, the other co-mentor could be e.g. a qualified stakeholder e.g. in
> this case a Wikisource admin or someone recognized in that community,
> responsive, able to help with prioritization of requirements, with
> testing...
>
> GSoC recommends two mentors per project and we have reached to the same
> conclusion based on our experiences.
>
> See also the lessons learned at https://www.mediawiki.org/**
> wiki/Outreach_Program_for_**Women/Round_5<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_5>
>
> The case for the second co-mentor is not only "what happens when a mentor
> disappears", which is a extreme case. A second co-mentor is a second voice,
> a second factor of peer pressure, a second eye to detect problems earlier...
>
> A team of 3 remote people also leads necessarily to better remote
> communications, better documentation and better openness and capacity to
> include more voices and more people in a project.
>
> Also, mentors learn as much as interns. Two new co-mentors will have an
> easier time than a new mentor alone. A rookie co-mentor can learn from one
> mentor with prior mentoring experience, and then a year later s/he will be
> ready to be the main co-mentor...
>
> Two people alone can do a lot of progress, but they carry a higher risk of
> isolation from the rest of the community. And then one day the intern or
> the mentor starts slacking or vanishing for some reason and all what is
> left are private emails, IRC/IM conversations and other types of
> undocumented, lost wisdom.
>
>
> --
> Quim Gil
> Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
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