On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Mark A. Hershberger <m...@nichework.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 10/01/2013 07:44 AM, Antoine Musso wrote:
> > > The file cache is barely maintained and I am not sure whether anyone
> > > is still relying on it. We should probably remove that feature
> > > entirely and instruct people to setup a real frontend cache instead.
> >
> > While this is a nice thought, it is completely unreasonable for the
> > majority of wikis out there who use shared hosting.
> >
> > We should find a way to maintain these bits that WMF doesn't use.
> >
>
> We've been moving away from being friendly to old-style shared-hosting
> servers for some time with key features that people are going to expect to
> replicate on their MediaWikis in the future...
>
> * Lua templates
> * VE and Parsoid
> * Math next-generation version migrating to using a web service instead of
> a shell-out
> * ???
>
> I'd recommend starting to deprecate support for 'shared PHP web host'
> environments altogether in favor of either custom installations or virtual
> machines -- VMs are both more flexible and easier to install.
>
> That might not be something we can do immediately, but we should strongly
> think about planning that way for the future.
>
>
I'd like to echo everything Brion said here. I think we were just talking
about this last week or the week before, right?

-Chad
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