Thanks for the replies. > > Another thought: I searched for the attachment icon. I found it, but I am > > not sure that it would be easy to find for all users. I might be > > subjective, thought, because I upload a lot of screenshots and mileage may > > vary for other users. > > > Maybe you and me are getting old? ;) Note that, strictly speaking, users > are not "attaching" (clip metaphore) but uploading a file that can be used > anywhere and linking it to the description / comment, all at once. The > tooltip says "Upload File" and you see an "up" arrow in a cloud. This is in > fact a character from Awesome Font, so if you find a better alternative at > https://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/ we can propose it > upstream.
Sorry for being unclear. I meant not so much the appearance of the icon, but the fact that it is so small and that it appears on a toolbar with quite a lot of other small icons. If a user knows that such an icon is supposed to be there, it's possible that the user will find it, but a new user may need a separate explanation. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014-08-27 19:19 GMT+03:00 Quim Gil <q...@wikimedia.org>: > Hi, > > On Wednesday, August 27, 2014, Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> > wrote: > > > Thoughts along the way: > > > > == One == > > > > > http://fab.wmflabs.org/maniphest/task/create/ (imagine that the > "Points" > > field is not there). > > > > What if I don't have this link? > > > > We still have to define the content of the homepage, so there. More about > the content of the soon-to-become homepage at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T12 > > See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Creating_a_task > > > I tried click the + at the top of the screen. This gave me a menu that > says: > > Create New: > > Maniphest Task > > Pholio Mock > > Paste > > > > Now it says > > Create New: > Task > Mockup > Paste > > > > (Come to think of it, I guess that Paste is kinda like Pastebin, > > but that's because I'm a developer.) > > > > Also like Copy&Paste, a term most users landing in that page will be > familiar with. But anyway, if you clicked that button because you wanted to > create a task, "Create New: Task" is a clear choice now. > > > > *However*, since it is so similar to email, it's all the more confusing > > when you get to the details. In email, the usual order of fields is.... > > > But this is not an email interface. It is a task creation interface. If you > want to create a task, "Title" is a clear concept, "CC" is probably clear > as well (and if not, leaving it empty is just fine), the fact that tasks > are classified into "Projects" is a familiar concept too (and if not, you > can also leave it blank), and "Description" doesn't need any explanation. > > > > > you must > > take into account that lots of people don't bother reading field labels > and > > get very confused. > > > > Only Title and Description accept free text, so getting it wrong is > actually somewhat difficult. :) I think this is quite of a low barrier for > any English speaking user of MediaWiki of Wikimedia sites. Even the > "English speaking" part can be improved in the future (but I'm digressing > here). > > > == Three == > > I tried typing "MediaWiki" in projects and got an auto-completion with an > > umbrella icon. "Why umbrella?", I thought. And then I got it :) > > > > Good! :) > > The list of projects we have currently in fab.wmflabs.org is quite random > (i.e. you were lucky to find a "MediaWiki" project, created just for > testing purposes long time ago). By Day 1 we will have a full list of real > projects, type-ahead should offer sensible results, and icons of projects > will follow a consistent guideline. > > > > == Four == > > Another thought: I searched for the attachment icon. I found it, but I am > > not sure that it would be easy to find for all users. I might be > > subjective, thought, because I upload a lot of screenshots and mileage > may > > vary for other users. > > > > Maybe you and me are getting old? ;) Note that, strictly speaking, users > are not "attaching" (clip metaphore) but uploading a file that can be used > anywhere and linking it to the description / comment, all at once. The > tooltip says "Upload File" and you see an "up" arrow in a cloud. This is in > fact a character from Awesome Font, so if you find a better alternative at > https://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/ we can propose it > upstream. > > > -- > Quim Gil > Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
