On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hoi,
> I do not get it. It says, it will eventually put this information into
> Wikidata ... WHY NOT NOW ?
>

:)

Soon! It's just that in the early days of building this, we've been doing
lots of usability testing and tech testing that would have resulted in a
bunch of nonsense getting shipped to Wikidata – and we didn't want those to
be the very first results from this feature ;) But we're starting on the
work to send these as Wikidata contributions in our coming sprints. Stay
tuned!



> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
> On 3 November 2014 23:16, Max Semenik <maxsem.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, WikiGrok[0] has been successfully deployed to the English Wikipedia.
> > Along with it a first campaign[1] was deployed. Now database is being
> > slowly populated with suggestions:
> >
> > MariaDB [enwiki_p]> select page_title, pp_value from page, page_props
> where
> > pp_page=page_id and pp_propname='wikigrok_questions_v1' limit 100;
> >
> >
> +-------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > | page_title              | pp_value
> >                                                       |
> >
> >
> +-------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > | Richard_Branson         |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Tina_Fey                |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Jon_Stewart             |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Bill_Maher              |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Jeff_Foxworthy          |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Evadne_Price            |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Dominic_Guard           |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Dilsa_Demirbag_Sten     |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | J._Douglas_MacMillan    |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Carol_Bowman            |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Lianella_Carell         |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | G._K._Reddy             |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Liù_Bosisio             |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> > | Matilde_Rodríguez_Cabo  |
> >
> >
> a:1:{s:6:"author";a:2:{s:8:"property";s:4:"P106";s:9:"questions";a:1:{s:7:"Q482980";s:6:"author";}}}
> > |
> >
> >
> +-------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > 14 rows in set (0.42 sec)
> >
> > Pages are getting updated when edited (null edit works, but not
> > action=purge). According to estimations made with WikiData Query[2], the
> > number of potentially affected pages is approximately 33,000. If really
> > needed, we could whip up a script to null-edit these pages from server
> side
> > in a controlled manner, but I would like to have more data on performance
> > and memory consumption first.
> >
> > == Monitoring ==
> > * Graphite: MediaWiki -> WikiGrok
> > * Exceptions from WikiData: type:mobile in Logstash.
> >
> > == Firefighting ==
> > Most of potentially performance-scary/error causing code with can be
> > disabled by commenting out $wgWikiGrokSlowCampaigns in
> > wmf-config/mobile.php. If shit hits fan really hard, whole extension can
> be
> > disabled through the usual means, with $wmgUseWikiGrok.
> >
> > == Next steps ==
> > I'm working on DB storage for questions[3] which will allow us to avoid
> > abusing page_props and give features such as "find me pages that could
> use
> > this type of fixes" and "find me a random page to fix".
> >
> >
> > ----
> > [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiGrok
> > [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/170453/
> > [2] http://wdq.wmflabs.org/
> > [3] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/170263
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])
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