Should we create a page on mediawiki and allow people to vote for it or 
against. And advertise it on Wikimedia wiki so that users know there is a vote 
going on for GPL3. and we should hold the vote for 2 to 3 months giving time 
for users to vote and since this would probably be a big update to GPL. 

     On Monday, 9 February 2015, 19:37, Tyler Romeo <tylerro...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
   

 This entire conversation is a bit disappointing, mainly because I am a 
supporter of the free software movement, and like to believe that users should 
have a right to see the source code of software they use. Obviously not 
everybody feels this way and not everybody is going to support the free 
software movement, but I can assure you I personally have no plans on 
contributing to any WMF project that is Apache licensed, but at the very least 
MediaWiki core is still GPLv2, even if it makes things a bit more difficult.

Also, I have no idea how the MPL works, but I can assure you that licensing 
under the “GPLv2 or any later version” cannot possibly imply it is available 
under both the v2 and v3. The different GPL versions have conflicting terms. 
You cannot possibly use the terms of the v2 and v3 simultaneously. It is 
legally impossible. What is means is that you can use the software under the 
terms of the v2 *or* the v3. And, as I mentioned, since Apache is only 
compatible with v3, as long as using the software under the v2 is an option, 
you cannot combine code that is under Apache.

-- 
Tyler Romeo
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On February 9, 2015 at 04:06:54, David Gerard (dger...@gmail.com) wrote:

On 9 February 2015 at 08:28, Max Semenik <maxsem.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OpenOffice's woes are unrelated to its license, it was already dead by
> forking when Oracle transferred it to Apache, facilitating a change from
> GPL+proprietary CLA to the Apache license.



Indeed, but they touted the mythical attractiveness of a permissive
license over the bondage of copyleft. And it didn't work that way at
all in practice.

Again: data, rather than anecdote or surmise? As far as I can tell,
the claim that permissive attracts more contributions than copyleft is
entirely a myth.


- d.

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