These conversions have been running in the background, at a moderate load
to ensure we don't slow down newer uploads much, and are up to the "P"s
alphabetically so we're on schedule. :)

I've temporarily stopped the batch process pending the upcoming datacenter
switchover test, and will continue once it's switched.

-- brion

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 2:06 PM Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Quick update... no major problems noticed so far. One configuration change
> I made was to re-enable VP8 transcodes for new files, since disabling them
> completely lead to the existing ones not being used. Later in the
> transition, or afterwards, we'll clean up the now-unused VP8 transcodes.
>
> If I'm reading numbers in
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler/VP9_
> transition/reports right, almost 5% of files by count or 12% by duration
> have been converted so far.
>
> That leads to a remaining duration somewhere between 9 weeks (assuming 9
> days did 12% of stuff) and 24 weeks (9 days did 5% of stuff), depending on
> actual factors like whether the remaining files are the same mix of
> resolutions, and how we adjust the load balance on the job queue.
>
> -- brion
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:22 AM Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Batch process is continuing... over 2200 source videos have been
>> compressed to VP9 so far, of the 120k+ total in the system.
>>
>> Seeing big improvements in overall compression, though it's hard to tell
>> how representative the subset of conversions done so far is. I'll post
>> occasional updates to the transcode report charts at:
>>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler/VP9_transition/reports
>>
>> In the histograms you can see that not only is the average bitrate down
>> for VP9 vs VP8, but there's a larger "spread" between low and high
>> bandwidth in the VP9 versions thanks to the constrained-quality
>> configuration vs the old fixed bitrate target. This allows files that
>> compress well to use fewer bits, while those that have high frame rates or
>> lots of detail/motion use more bits to encode higher quality than they did
>> before.
>>
>> It will take at least a few weeks to recompress everything, and we may or
>> may not want to increase the number of simultaneous jobs (so far the
>> servers are running beautifully, but are a bit under-loaded).
>>
>> -- brion
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 5:51 PM Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Configuration has been updated and VP9 mode swapped in. Newly uploaded
>>> videos should start encoding as VP9 starting now.
>>>
>>> I'll start the backfill batch process tonight or tomorrow, and will
>>> likely stop and restart it a few times over the coming weeks if anything
>>> needs adjustment. Please file tasks in phabricator and/or give me a ping on
>>> IRC if any issues come up with the new conversions, or with old files!
>>> (Existing VP8 files will be left as-is for now until we're sure
>>> everything's up to snuff.)
>>>
>>> Big thanks to everybody who's helped prepping this, with libvpx and
>>> ffmpeg deployments, with the patches and review, and with final deployment
>>> which always takes longer than you expect. :) This'll be a nice improvement
>>> to our video output for now, and lays a lot of groundwork for next steps.
>>>
>>> -- brion
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:47 PM Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh and one more thing!
>>>>
>>>> For the VP9 configuration I'll be enabling 1440p and 2160p ("4K")
>>>> resolutions, which people can manually bump up to when watching videos with
>>>> a suitable 4K source on a high-res screen. They use higher data rates, but
>>>> only a small fraction of input files are 4K so should not significantly
>>>> increase disk space projections for now.
>>>>
>>>> These can take a long time to compress, so if we find it's problematic
>>>> we'll turn them back off until the jobs can be split into tiny chunks
>>>> (future work planned!), but it works in my testing and shouldn't clog the
>>>> servers now that we have more available.
>>>>
>>>> (Note that the ogv.js player shim for Safari will not handle
>>>> greater-than-HD resolutions fast enough for playback, even on a fast Mac or
>>>> iPad; for best results for 4K playback use Firefox, Chrome, or a
>>>> Chromium-based browser.)
>>>>
>>>> -- brion
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:39 PM Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, after some delay for re-tweaking the encoding settings for higher
>>>>> quality when needed, and pulling in some other improvements to the config
>>>>> system, all related updates to TimedMediaHandler have been merged. :D
>>>>>
>>>>> If all goes well with the general deployments in the next few days,
>>>>> expect the beginning of VP9 rollout starting next week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Changes since the earlier announcement:
>>>>> * the new row-multithreading will be available, which allows higher
>>>>> threading usage at all resolutions; encoding times will be more like 
>>>>> 1.5-2x
>>>>> slower instead of 3-4x slower.
>>>>> * switch to constrained quality with a larger max bitrate: many files
>>>>> will become significantly smaller in their VP9 versions, but some will
>>>>> actually increase in exchange for a huge increase in quality -- this is
>>>>> mostly 60fps high-rate files, and those with lots of motion and detail 
>>>>> that
>>>>> didn't compress well at the default low data rates.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- brion
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 9:46 AM Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Awesome sauce. Thanks Moritz!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- brion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 7:39 AM Moritz Muehlenhoff <
>>>>>> mmuhlenh...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 01:54:18PM -0700, Brion Vibber wrote:
>>>>>>> > Current state on this:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > * still hoping to deploy the libvpx+ffmpeg backport first so we
>>>>>>> start with
>>>>>>> > best performance; Moritz made a start on libvpx but we still have
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> > resolve ffmpeg (possibly by patching 3.2 instead of updating all
>>>>>>> the way to
>>>>>>> > 3.4)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've completed this today. We now have a separate repository
>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>> for stretch-wikimedia (named component/vp9) which includes ffmpeg
>>>>>>> 3.2.10
>>>>>>> (thus allowing us to follow the ffmpeg security updates released in
>>>>>>> Debian
>>>>>>> with a local rebuild) with backported row-mt support and linked
>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>> libvpx 1.7.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tested re-encoding
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wall_of_Death_-_Pitts_Todeswand_2017_-_Jagath_Perera.webm
>>>>>>> (which is a nice fast-paced test file) from VP8 to VP9, which
>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>> a size reduction from 48M to 31M.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When using eight CPU cores on one of our video scaler servers,
>>>>>>> enabling row-mt
>>>>>>> gives a significant performance boost; encoding time went down from
>>>>>>> 5:31 mins
>>>>>>> to 3:36 mins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the details can be found at
>>>>>>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190333#4324995
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>         Moritz
>>>>>>>
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