I don't think WMF should be hiring contractors purely for the purpose of supporting individual tools which are not in production.
On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 15:46, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi DJ, > > Out of curiosity, what all would be involved in the OS change? > > The bike layers could be a nontrivial loss for some folks. > > If no regular WMF staff are available for the OS changes and ongoing > maintenance, and if the use of bike lanes (or other features) is > significant in the opinion of the community, then I think that WMF > contractor time should be an option for the changes and maintenance, > although I would like to know how much that would cost before supporting > that option, along with how strongly bike lanes (and other features > supported by these servers) are wanted by the community. If the community > has no strong feelings regarding the loss of these features and the > contactor time would cost $30,000 in the first year then maybe the loss of > these features is acceptable, but if there is significant community desire > to maintain these features and the contractor time would cost $1,000 in the > first year then I would probably support spending the money for contractor > time for at least one year of additional service while WMF tries to recruit > volunteers for future years. In the context of a $100 million annual > budget, I am fairly confident that WMF could find $1,000 for an additional > year of service. > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 5:39 AM Derk-Jan Hartman < > d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > This is just another small reminder that, because the servers which host > > tiles.wmflabs.org and wma.wmflabs.org (wikiminiatlas) and overpass-wiki > > run on a version of the OS (Ubuntu Trusty) that is no longer supported > > (and hasn't been available for new instances since november 2017). > > > > These services need maintainers and support by community members in order > > to keep them alive after dec 18th (after which wmflabs will phase out > those > > versions) and before the EOL of early 2019 of the OS. Unfortunately it > > seems no one is stepping up so far to convert these machines. > > > > This issue is tracked at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204506 > > As I was curious, I looked around on the tile server a bit and used what > I > > could find to update > > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/OSM_Tileserver#Technology_stack > > This is all the information that I could gather, but i'm FAR from sure if > > that is complete information and if I would break anything with a rebuild > > basing myself on that info, so any information on missing elements etc. > > would be appreciated. I've not gotten around to looking at wikiminiatlas. > > > > If the services are not rebuild then likely they will just disappear at > > some point for all layer variants. This includes the mapnik, black and > > white, hill shading, hike bike layers. As I have no idea how many users > of > > these services there are, it is hard to say what the effect of that would > > be. > > > > DJ > > _______________________________________________ > > Maps-l mailing list > > map...@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/maps-l > > > -- > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
