Also HHVM and Blazegraph.

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Brian

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, Kunal Mehta <lego...@debian.org> wrote:

> On 5/29/21 5:59 PM, Brian Wolff wrote:
>
>> It sounds like phabricator upstream is going away:
>> https://admin.phacility.com/phame/post/view/11/phacility_is_
>> winding_down_operations/ <https://admin.phacility.com/p
>> hame/post/view/11/phacility_is_winding_down_operations/>
>>
>
> On the general topic, it's worrying to me this is the third major
> platform/software that Wikimedia relies on that is gone, with little
> notice. OTRS went EOL 2 days before Christmas last year[1] and Freenode
> well, switched hands and imploded.
>
> In all 3 cases though it's been pretty clear beforehand that something was
> wrong or unsustainable. OTRS didn't release their community edition on
> time[2], Freenode has had questionable governance for a while now, the
> "Freenode Limited" company was created in 2017, and Phabricator/Phacility
> has been maintained by a single person (who's done great work, no doubt) in
> a way that did not really encourage upstream contributions to build a
> sustainable community of contributors (my impression, correct me if I'm
> wrong).
>
> And with COVID-19, plenty of IRL businesses/shops/etc. have gone under or
> just closed down so it's unsurprising that we're seeing the effect in
> tech/FOSS too.
>
> I think it would be a good idea if we can check in on our upstreams[2],
> have sustainable governance, identifying if they assistance/support, and
> then figuring out how to provide what's needed.
>
> To start with, I think we have a unique opportunity to influence the
> governance of Libera Chat given they're just starting off and appear to be
> interested in getting our feedback[3].
>
> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275294
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Upstream_projects
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Libera_Chat_governance
>
> -- Legoktm
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